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Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: -2.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.67

Sorry forgot the graph.



 

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Economic Left/Right: -2.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.64

 



"I like my steaks how i like my women.  Bloody and all over my face"

"Its like sex, but with a winner!"

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MrBubbles said:

Economic Left/Right: -2.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.64

 

Ya mine looks kind of like that but closer to the center. So I will just say that it is that.. :P



 

Acevil said:
Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: -2.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.67

Sorry forgot the graph.




i want someone to post with the exact same position as me so i can yell that their three cent titanium tax goes too far.



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"Its like sex, but with a winner!"

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This graph has been marked useless by most economists in both side. Socialism and Capitalism are complements, not substitutes of each other. The problem is the political structure and current mindset in the U.S. The extreme capitalistic laws that are polluting our oceans, changing our landscapes, and is part of our diet will be even more visible in the next 10 years. Expect a 10%-30% increase in cancer if no cure is found yet by then.



non-gravity said:

Saw this in the old thread and was supprised seeing Marx, Lenin and Stalin so far apart. 

Though I suppose Lenin and Stalin first wanted to unite the world before (maybe if they felt like giving up their power) turning it into Marx's ideal?

I think it depends on who you ask. My take has always been that having a system that is heavily redistributive, such as communism, has to be implemented by force. Therefore, those who have attempted a heavily redistributive society tend to be very authoritarian in both economic matters as well as social. Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Castro, and just about any heavily socialist/communist leader also had a lot of social authority baggage to go with it. However, those with less control of state ownership, but with distribution have done a better job (Mandela, Ghandi, ect).

That is an interesting chart, though. Very interesting to see the founding fathers so far in the lower-right corner.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

i can't post it until i get my new computer,but good thread,i'd imgine i'll be in the blue box somewhere

i don't really understand how socialism can be the polar opposite to capitalism these days,it doesn't really make sense to me



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I've been taking this test every six months or so for the past 5 years and I've watched myself slowly drop more and more towards the left bottom.



Former something....

non-gravity said:

 

Saw this in the old thread and was supprised seeing Marx, Lenin and Stalin so far apart. 

Though I suppose Lenin and Stalin first wanted to unite the world before (maybe if they felt like giving up their power) turning it into Marx's ideal?


Marx is a tough one... Marx had an old saying....

"If this Marism, I am not a Marxist."

Marx's beliefs were built out of a dispair in which he couldn't imagine a non communist country even havin  unions as strong as we have now.  So he always thought a large uprising was needed.

Alive today Marx would likely have a totally different set of ideals.

Marx's "End game" communism was really more of a "Libretarian Utopia" then a standard socialist one.  At the end of the day, he saw communism not needing ANY government to get by and people caring for each other out of their new soiciological perspectives.

The only issue is, it had to start with a authrotarian "brain washing" type contol everything group to force people to think that way.  Marx wasn't looking for a new government so much as he was... a new human race one who cared as much for strangers as it did itself.  

Stalin and Lenin after implementing the ideas thought that only with force could communism be upheld... with differing opinions of how much force.

If anything, Marx and Engles being so far a part should be moer surprising to you since they wrote the communist manifesto together.  Though there differences are also pretty unsurprising.