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theprof00 on 06 July 2011

quoted for attention

now that I've unvoted you, you're suddenly off my ass?

You stil have your vote on me, but you've yet to reply to my post, and are now FoSing other people. Is it fair of me to think that your whole argument was merely to get some pressure off of you?





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Final-Fan on 06 July 2011
Hephaestos said:
Final-Fan said:
 "Some people have voiced incertitude on ST... so your argument is "we can also lynch linkz/hat"..." What gives you the idea that that comment in the votals was an argument? What would I even be arguing? Were you claiming I jumped from one bandwagon to the other? You are just senselessly attacking me IMO.

argument is indeed not the proper word... counterproposal is more fitting. My point was that you were presenting the case as if these 2 choices were the only ones.

and yes i'm trying different angles to attack you because I don't like the vibe from you, and if you are scum then i'm bound to find an angle at one point.

Indeed, I think that practically speaking, for this day, hatmoza/Linkz and ST/sabby are the only ones we should be thinking about voting.  I didn't mention sabby because at the time I considered them basically interchangeable and ST was much more lynchable (having several votes on him already).  But now that he's participating there is a reason to distinguish between them. 



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Vetteman94 on 06 July 2011

So we have a cop claim and with a scum investigation and only a few people think its a viable reason to vote the outcome? I dont understand, not one reason that was brought up is a good reason to not vote for Linkz. Their was no counter-claim, all the theories of what his sanity is are just attempts at trying to discredit him. Sure its possible he has sanity issues in this game, but the earlier we can determine what those are the more of a use he can be to us.

Vote: Linkz



sabby_e17 on 06 July 2011
Hephaestos said:
sabby_e17 said:
Wasn't available because I went over for a sleepover to my cousin's house for 4 days since his internet went bust. I was online yesterday by checking on my phone but couldn't post.

Also Hephaestos, why do you think I'm Mafia? Fyi, I didn't "want" Radish to kill someone, but said it would be interesting if he did and realised it was a premature statement. I didn't think Radish was Mafia nor did I jump on the bandwagon unlike some. But then again he did have it coming for acting incredibly stupid.

Also would like to know why Linkz think I'm a certain Mafia.

well this game is rather on the slow side, and there aren't many longposts to make people fear reading it, so it's easy to assume that people that just don't seem to mind the game much (as in not being there for 4 days) are probably just trying to lay low... Though in your defence, I did check and you did not post elsewhere, so the absence part of my suspicion can be considered as cleared.

There still remains your taunt to radish in order to have him kill someone... even if you say it was a premature statement ( do you mean "well thought out"?) this doesn't change the fact that if he did have a day kill ability, you basically asked him to use it... out of the comfort of not voting him and thus not being a target. The worst part is that if you did believe him to be town, you were pushing for a blink kill, not for him to prove his powers, and blind kills have what? 70%+ chance of killing town...

But the real reason I'm suspicious about you is these other posts you made after... they clearly show that your realisation that it was premature came from Vette's comments on them... You're not new to mafia, you don't have the "i'm not used to it so I say everything that comes to mind" excuse. Heck you're even the cautious type if I recall.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4123152

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4123151


I can see why I'd be suspicious for that and I did make the statement without somehow realising that it could have been bad for the town. But then again, I didn't vote for him and did believe that he was town. I was reluctant to vote him dispite how dumb he was acting. To be fair, even I would be suspicious of someone if they did the same as me. 




sabby_e17 on 06 July 2011

I'd also be suspicious of people who jumped on Radish's lynchtrain and those who took advantage of Radish's stupidity by voting him. Most people on day one voted for Radish and you can bet the Mafia were part of his lynching.

I do not think Silver-Tiger is Mafia because he didn't vote Radish on day one.




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Vetteman94 on 06 July 2011
sabby_e17 said:
I'd also be suspicious of people who jumped on Radish's lynchtrain and those who took advantage of Radish's stupidity by voting him. Most people on day one voted for Radish and you can bet the Mafia were part of his lynching.

I do not think Silver-Tiger is Mafia because he didn't vote Radish on day one.

Thats interesting considering your last words on Radish's impending lynch were "You didnt care if Radish got lynched or not"



A Bad Clown on 06 July 2011
sabby_e17 said:
I'd also be suspicious of people who jumped on Radish's lynchtrain and those who took advantage of Radish's stupidity by voting him. Most people on day one voted for Radish and you can bet the Mafia were part of his lynching.

I do not think Silver-Tiger is Mafia because he didn't vote Radish on day one.

I don't know if anyone just jumped on the Radish lynch train, Baazalmon did but he was town. If anything the mafia would have been afraid to vote him after he mentioned he could kill, radish could have been a bomb type role and could have killed one of them. Radish made himself look like mafia so much that not voting him would have been strange. He even tried to defend himself from Trucks by saying "deep down you know I'm town", which was where I concluded that Radish was mafia. No pro town power role should try to use that reasoning so late in the day.



19:44:34 Skeezer METAL GEAR ONLINE
19:44:36 Skeezer FAILURE
19:44:51 ABadClown You're right!
19:44:55 ABadClown Hur hur hur
19:45:01 Skeezer i meant
19:45:04 Skeezer YOU ARE A FAILKURE
19:45:08 Skeezer FAILURE*
A Bad Clown on 06 July 2011

It seems quoting Sabby makes my text huge...



19:44:34 Skeezer METAL GEAR ONLINE
19:44:36 Skeezer FAILURE
19:44:51 ABadClown You're right!
19:44:55 ABadClown Hur hur hur
19:45:01 Skeezer i meant
19:45:04 Skeezer YOU ARE A FAILKURE
19:45:08 Skeezer FAILURE*
sabby_e17 on 06 July 2011
Vetteman94 said:
sabby_e17 said:
I'd also be suspicious of people who jumped on Radish's lynchtrain and those who took advantage of Radish's stupidity by voting him. Most people on day one voted for Radish and you can bet the Mafia were part of his lynching.

I do not think Silver-Tiger is Mafia because he didn't vote Radish on day one.

Thats interesting considering your last words on Radish's impending lynch were "You didnt care if Radish got lynched or not"


Yes I did say that because of how incredibly stupid he was acting. Whether he was town or Mafia could have gone either way based on the way he was acting but I felt that there was inconclusive evidence to lynch him. I wouldn't have voted him but didn't care if others killed him. And Hatmoza said the same thing here http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4123181

EDIT: Added link 




sabby_e17 on 06 July 2011
A Bad Clown said:
sabby_e17 said:
I'd also be suspicious of people who jumped on Radish's lynchtrain and those who took advantage of Radish's stupidity by voting him. Most people on day one voted for Radish and you can bet the Mafia were part of his lynching.

I do not think Silver-Tiger is Mafia because he didn't vote Radish on day one.

I don't know if anyone just jumped on the Radish lynch train, Baazalmon did but he was town. If anything the mafia would have been afraid to vote him after he mentioned he could kill, radish could have been a bomb type role and could have killed one of them. Radish made himself look like mafia so much that not voting him would have been strange. He even tried to defend himself from Trucks by saying "deep down you know I'm town", which was where I concluded that Radish was mafia. No pro town power role should try to use that reasoning so late in the day.

Imo Mafia would rather vote him out considering they would be well disguised by the majority voting him anyway. They probably weren't scared of his threats knowing that a potential kill could go either way and tbh I don't think they thought much of it anyway. As for the bomb, most people are unaware of it until it hits them or until someone gives some sort of hint. From what I remember, Radish hinted towards him being a vigilante-doctor or something like that.

Radish played very poorly and imo no Mafia would have acted the way he did.