1) This jumped out at me as rolefishing, but from my point of view I was the only one doing anything so far today. So I let it sit unmentioned, hoping somebody else would do something and at the same time confirm my suspicions as well.

And yet we did have night info from hat, so my surprise was well founded (....or did we?)

2) Between this and the fumble comment, I get the impression that you're glad the spotlight has been shifted from ST to the two of us.

fumble was a reference to me last round, I recall using the same term at one point about me outing stefl and myself... here Hat had just said "Oh I might be a crasy cop"... ousting himself (in theory)

3) This comes off more as wondering how big of a threat hat is than curiousity of the claim fitting balance-wise.

Why did you delete my fristly of (4) since it had a relation to this? I think he's not a full fledge cop as you say (below) so yeah it doesn't fit.

4) It's weird that you said "with your role known" and then switch to being unsure of the role. Even I know hat is saying he's a full-on Cop, but he mentioned at one point that he thought he might have sanity issues. Now that this is the third time you've mentioned radish being powerful for town it's pretty clear to me that you have some kind of indication how powerful the mafia are, or rather aren't. Otherwise, with no scum flipped there's no telling how strong they are and how strong town is to compensate.

"with your role known" means that since he already claimed something in the area of cop, the only people he's hurting with lack of clarity is the town, the mafia already have him as a target. So with the assumption that he didn't lie so far, he should be a lot more cooperative.

If it's so clear, then I want him to say it, not hint at it.

 5) Sanity isn't always clarified upon death, and yes that is an important detail.

That is why cop is a safer fake claim than one might think...

6) While I agree that sabby's absence is bothersome, and I've already given a couple of other reasons why I have him as my number two suspect, I really question how you can be neutral on ST given his dissappearance from the game after my case against him and prof's question. I know I'm putting the cart before the horse, but I think you want to be on the train with no momentum in hopes that neither is actually lynched. And later on if sabby is lynched, you can say "See I was on scum anyway."

Bottom line is I feel like you're discouraged that you got stuck with two people that sort of pointed the finger at you due to mutual omission. I appreciate you staying active though and trying to make the best of it.

Since I folow Sabby the 6 day goner, ST doesn't quite appear innactive to my eyes (isn't vet longer out than ST too?). Add ABC who just pops in and out...

mutual omission? you mean the trucks thing? then surely I should have stayed quiet instead of pooring a bit of tar on ST no? if I recall, at the time he was barely focused on.

7) I don't believe my roleclaim would be helpful for town. I see no harm in a nameclaim though; however, unfortunately I don't see it being helpful either. I'm Steve Wiebe.

Currently there is a claim that I am town by me. Either hat is lying(which I don't think is the case) or I've already explained how he could have gotten a guilty result when I should be innocent.

I'll reveal this on myself... my character is fictional. So I find it very odd that both you and Hat claimed live characters. Is it because of Radish's absence of a character and Baal's emo singer flip? Still I also know just from the 2 flips and my name that this is very random indeed.

I wasn't expecting ioi either, because once again I fail to see how that is random.

I don't like the "crazy cop" bit either, because I have a slight feeling it was suggested as a pre-emptive defense in case I'm lynched for when I flip town. It's not necessary for someone else to claim cop though for hat to be Insane, as the presense of a Tracker, Watcher, LD, Thief, etc. would also support the "weakening" of a traditional cop. If there is a cop counter-claim they should step forward, but I'm not asking for anyone to come out as one of those roles. Simply asking that they keep that in mind.

If hat changed his mind from investigating you or ST, it would make sense given the suspicion voiced during twilight. I'm not questioning his choice of me as a target, though that could have been a set up.

Given no protection role(s) is already dead, I would normally disagree with not testing the claim today; however, since I know I am town that would be problematic. I think the idea of giving hat another night is best. You haven't mentioned the possibility of a scum roleblocker, but since nobody has claimed to be roleblocked, there's a good chance they don't have one. hat is a shoe-in for protection as the only claimed power, so it's unlikely he'll be killed.

As for me prodding you more, I usually wait til later with you because I always have such trouble reading you. The only interactions that haven't sat well with me were the ones between yourself and hat earlier. I currently have a town read, and your caution of hat's claim only enforces that further. I also think I have the scumteam pegged, in ST, sabby, and Heph(unmentioned until now, but I'll explain in the next post) so I haven't looked too strongly at anyone else.

Besides what I perceived to be slip:

1.)You FoSed TOS for 'bandwagoning' without doing the same for Heph, who by his own admission was pretty much just like TOS.(And wouldn't you know Sabby did the same thing)

2.)While there was a decent amount of discussion going on and you were a fair contender for getting lynched, you point to Baal and Sabby as being suspicious. Especially now that Baal has flipped town, it feels like trying to redirect town's focus.

3.)You took the 'safe and easy' No Lynch route, and your explanation for waiting doesn't feel genuine. If you wanted to vote a day earlier, then you should have. Unless you were going to hide afterwards like you accused Baal of doing, then there's nothing that would have stopped you from commenting or voting differently if "something meaningful" came up.

4.)You felt the need to say absolutely nothing after radish was chastised for it.

With the reread and more thinking on your hesitation to vote radish, the thing that stands out most is:

5.)Now my belief is you hesitated to vote because you wanted radish to kill one or more of the people voting him. I would guess there was at most 1 mafia on that lynch before hat hammered, which would give you good odds of a townie being killed and radish still being lynched as a consequence. I'll admit that my reasoning is somewhat circular since I also believe sabby is scum and so this theory would fit perfectly, but even if it were 2 mafia and 4 townies on the lynch it's still more likely than not that an extra townie would die.

6.)Finally, http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4126238 and http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4126375 are so horrible. First, what is "My analysis was based on the fact that it is important to me has such behaviour, although it doesn't matter yet for me." supposed to mean? Next, Baal being dead only proves your point if Baal was chosen for being quiet and being a probable power role, and not because Baal was unlikely to be protected or watched as TOS pointed out, which you could only know if you were mafia. Then you bring me up, which I'm assuming is trying to buddy up to me as a means of convincing me I've got the wrong read. Fat chance, I'd say you're hoping that post will be used against me down the line. Lastly, there seems to be way too much repetition that the "opinions" seem forced.