I've been dropping hints since day one. You guys are slow.

I cannot believe you guys don't want to vote linkz. This is ridiculous. I know ridiculous is thrown around like a baseball in baseball season, but this is the definition of ridiculous.

I am ioi, entrepreneur and founder of VGC.

There's my effing nameclaim, now do your part and hang Linkz.

I was thinking blacksaber, you said you did the assraping, which kind of threw me off.

Anyway, I want to get back to your tangle with Linkz. You said something about you possibly being a crazy cop. FF should have picked up right away that you were claiming cop. My beef is that you actually seem doubtful about your role. I don't like the "maybe I'm a crazy cop" bit. BUT, there hasn't been a counter-claim and this would be one of those situations where cop counter-claim is obligatory.

I don't like what you said because you shouldn't get a free ride. If Linkz does indeed show up as town, we're in a weird predicament.

However, your claim also fits into that part about where you said that someone should investigate prof or (was it ST?), and kill some other players whose names I dont remember. I countered by saying you might be going to kill, to softclaim vig later, to which you responded that I should keep my hole shut.....This kind of makes me think I was close enough to what you were doing that it provoked that reaction. However.... you didn't even investigate either of those two people, am I right?

So, it's hard to believe either way what you are or your affiliation. You could indeed be a crazy cop, and that's not something I'd like to test with a lynch.

I'm just running myself around in circles now...

I'd say we should give it another night. You target another player and see what the result is. And we go from there. The possible outcomes is that you are protected or you are killed. In either case we have a much better idea about who to go after.

Additionally, I am a little surprised that linkz hasn't prodded me further..

This may come down to a coin flip.

speaking of ioi, I need to send him a suggestion that time stamps are done a little more accurately. Previously, we had "username on date/time". Now, we have "username on (date if more than 1 day previous)" and just "username Xhours ago" if more recent. This makes finding individual posts a lot harder since I can't add "on" after the username, which normally only would appear in that user's post.

Firstly, I disagree with Hat. Hints at a character with such a wide pool is almost impossible to find. Heck if he had said "I used to be called Murphy and cleared proff last night" then yeah, one could see a clear connection to an actuall cop character. But there he gave hints of kicking ass, going up the ladder, being part of a company and then shifting to website.... I'm not saying he's inconsistant, i'm saying they were vague hints and that IoI is definitely not a "cop" figure... he's an admin, not a mod.

Secondly, I disagree with Proff. Hat's role isn't clear, all he claimed was that he may be a crazy cop. Of the currently active people 3 are confused by this at least, that is enough to warrant a clearer explanation. What I want to know is if he has limitations of any kind (don't care the kind), because Radish's role sounded already pretty powerfull and unless most people are vanilla, an unrestrained cop in this game sounds a bit off.

Also, do crazy cops appear as crazy when they die? important for the matter at hand no?

by the way, where's Sabby?

Going back to this because it stood out during my reread. As town, I have no reason to trust you just because you say you are something. If I were scum, then I would already know your alignment and thus I'd have no doubts about your claim.

Also, I never once doubted that you scanned me. Only the claim that you got a guilty result because I know I should return an innocent result(a possibility you yourself first suggested) and the claim you were a plain cop because of a mistake YOU made. You have failed to acknowledge how that was the cause of my so-called "weak reasoning and links."(Although that last bit made no sense, since I hadn't used any links at the time)

would you be open to claiming or do you feel this to be a destructive path for the town?

Currently there is a claim that you are scum by Hat, but he has yet to clarify what he claims to be. A Claim from you would help clear the fog on this situation.

I wasn't expecting ioi either, because once again I fail to see how that is random.

I don't like the "crazy cop" bit either, because I have a slight feeling it was suggested as a pre-emptive defense in case I'm lynched for when I flip town. It's not necessary for someone else to claim cop though for hat to be Insane, as the presense of a Tracker, Watcher, LD, Thief, etc. would also support the "weakening" of a traditional cop. If there is a cop counter-claim they should step forward, but I'm not asking for anyone to come out as one of those roles. Simply asking that they keep that in mind.

If hat changed his mind from investigating you or ST, it would make sense given the suspicion voiced during twilight. I'm not questioning his choice of me as a target, though that could have been a set up.

Given no protection role(s) is already dead, I would normally disagree with not testing the claim today; however, since I know I am town that would be problematic. I think the idea of giving hat another night is best. You haven't mentioned the possibility of a scum roleblocker, but since nobody has claimed to be roleblocked, there's a good chance they don't have one. hat is a shoe-in for protection as the only claimed power, so it's unlikely he'll be killed.

As for me prodding you more, I usually wait til later with you because I always have such trouble reading you. The only interactions that haven't sat well with me were the ones between yourself and hat earlier. I currently have a town read, and your caution of hat's claim only enforces that further. I also think I have the scumteam pegged, in ST, sabby, and Heph(unmentioned until now, but I'll explain in the next post) so I haven't looked too strongly at anyone else.

This for sure, it's all posts within a week that don't have the "on" after the username though. Also, edits need to be displayed again. Those two changes have made these forums less than ideal for Mafia.

please do tell, your next post alread came and went ^^