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Silver-Tiger said:

Then maybe I should refresh your memory on who was killed first in last game. It was you, and you pretty quiet on day one. And it was not the first time the most quiet players are killed. It's really simple actually. The only players who lurk or keep a low profile are either A) townies with power roles or B) scum. My analysis was based on the fact that it is important to me has such behaviour, although it doesn't matter yet for me.

I wasn't that quiet last round, I had even alluded to being a bomb (which I thought I could be btw).



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HoS Sabby

For his actions at the end of day 1.  

HoS Silver-Tiger

You seem to have an insight on what happened at night.  Its possible you are just speculating on what may have happened but its with an odd sense of certainty. 

 

I wouldnt have much of a problem with seeing either of these 2 lynched today,  and it seems that Silver-Tiger is well on his way to that. 

 

Also is the timer back on for the day?



TruckOSaurus said:
Silver-Tiger said:

Then maybe I should refresh your memory on who was killed first in last game. It was you, and you pretty quiet on day one. And it was not the first time the most quiet players are killed. It's really simple actually. The only players who lurk or keep a low profile are either A) townies with power roles or B) scum. My analysis was based on the fact that it is important to me has such behaviour, although it doesn't matter yet for me.

I wasn't that quiet last round, I had even alluded to being a bomb (which I thought I could be btw).

Compared to others, you WERE quiet.
Anyway, I'm not here to discuss things of past rounds. It's correct that mafia always goes for the strongest targets, but how would they know about the power roles on day one? If they have some kind of informative role, the result arrives at day two, so they can't choose their target after that. Players who have chances at being lynched won't be targeted because they hope town lynches them. That leaves players who are not suspected and often these are also the most quiet players.

Now, if we were on day three, that would be a completely other situation.



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Silver-Tiger said:

Compared to others, you WERE quiet.
Anyway, I'm not here to discuss things of past rounds. It's correct that mafia always goes for the strongest targets, but how would they know about the power roles on day one? If they have some kind of informative role, the result arrives at day two, so they can't choose their target after that. Players who have chances at being lynched won't be targeted because they hope town lynches them. That leaves players who are not suspected and often these are also the most quiet players.

Now, if we were on day three, that would be a completely other situation.

That leaves players with a good track record of catching scum before quiet players.



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TruckOSaurus said:
Silver-Tiger said:

Compared to others, you WERE quiet.
Anyway, I'm not here to discuss things of past rounds. It's correct that mafia always goes for the strongest targets, but how would they know about the power roles on day one? If they have some kind of informative role, the result arrives at day two, so they can't choose their target after that. Players who have chances at being lynched won't be targeted because they hope town lynches them. That leaves players who are not suspected and often these are also the most quiet players.

Now, if we were on day three, that would be a completely other situation.

That leaves players with a good track record of catching scum before quiet players.

If you say so..

Baalza is dead, which proves my point that mafia goes for the quiet players. If they're going for the players with a good track record, why didn't they target Linkz for example? Would have been the perfect setup to get me killed. He has a good track record, although he's wrong this time. Linkz seems to be on my ass for some reason I don't know, but so far he's giving me the most town vibe so far.



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hatmoza said:

Who said I voted you for something I said 3 days ago?

Who said you didn't? 



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hatmoza said:
Linkzmax said:
hatmoza said:
Prof, what do you think of Linkz?

I ask because he's suddenly on the top of my list as scum.

I'm too shit faced to gather my thoughts, but I think the reasons were in his last post.

1- he didn't vote Radish
2- he made sure he made it clear in the last post that he didn't vote Radish.
3- Pulled the "aww I was so going to vote hime if Radish wasn't hammered.
4- I'm getting pure scum (mafia to be specific) read from him.

This sure seems like an overreaction to my lame attempt at getting you to out the entire mafia.

1- I made it clear that I thought he was town earlier. I'm not going to vote for someone I believe is town.
2- This is essentially 1 again. Voting history gets brought up in later days, so there's no hiding that fact.
3- I maintain that I would have. radish handled his role quite poorly and looked like absolute scum. Even when the night flavor was posted I thought we had been succesful, but it wasn't until I checked the OP that I saw it was a mislynch.
4- This is why I feel like it's an overreaction to my attempt. You wait until twilight to announce you have a pure scum read from me, which must be based on more than just my last post, yet you never voiced suspicions earlier.

As for the vote, you're either scum trying to set up another mislynch or you're a townie with zero evidence against me.(because it doesn't exist) Either way, I'm not too concerned(No, I'm not unlynchable or a mayor) and will be getting back to trying to lynch scum. Speaking of which, rereading ST left me with the same scum vibe.

Vote: Silver-Tiger

Who said I voted you for something I said 3 days ago?

Jeez, you could at least pretend to have read the post.



Was Radish a treestump (like I made in my game) or was he just a vanilla townie named that?



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Silver-Tiger said:

Which part of my comments left you with a scum vibe?

Besides what I perceived to be slip:

You FoSed TOS for 'bandwagoning' without doing the same for Heph, who by his own admission was pretty much just like TOS.(And wouldn't you know Sabby did the same thing)

While there was a decent amount of discussion going on and you were a fair contender for getting lynched, you point to Baal and Sabby as being suspicious. Especially now that Baal has flipped town, it feels like trying to redirect town's focus.

You took the 'safe and easy' No Lynch route, and your explanation for waiting doesn't feel genuine. If you wanted to vote a day earlier, then you should have. Unless you were going to hide afterwards like you accused Baal of doing, then there's nothing that would have stopped you from commenting or voting differently if "something meaningful" came up.

You felt the need to say absolutely nothing after radish was chastised for it.

With the reread and more thinking on your hesitation to vote radish, the thing that stands out most is:

radishhead said:

Of the people that have voted me, I may have to choose one of you to prove my loyalty to the town.

Now my belief is you hesitated to vote because you wanted radish to kill one or more of the people voting him. I would guess there was at most 1 mafia on that lynch before hat hammered, which would give you good odds of a townie being killed and radish still being lynched as a consequence. I'll admit that my reasoning is somewhat circular since I also believe sabby is scum and so this theory would fit perfectly, but even if it were 2 mafia and 4 townies on the lynch it's still more likely than not that an extra townie would die.

Finally, http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4126238 and http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4126375 are so horrible. First, what is "My analysis was based on the fact that it is important to me has such behaviour, although it doesn't matter yet for me." supposed to mean? Next, Baal being dead only proves your point if Baal was chosen for being quiet and being a probable power role, and not because Baal was unlikely to be protected or watched as TOS pointed out, which you could only know if you were mafia. Then you bring me up, which I'm assuming is trying to buddy up to me as a means of convincing me I've got the wrong read. Fat chance, I'd say you're hoping that post will be used against me down the line. Lastly, there seems to be way too much repetition that the "opinions" seem forced.



Silver-Tiger said:
Hephaestos said:
Silver-Tiger said:
Hephaestos said:
negative new posts are back.... that explains why "my topics" is all orange with nothing new ^^

Mafia Round 30 - Mayhem At 3ever's Abandoned Carnival
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So I was not the only one with this strange bug.. ^^

Why the need to explain things ofr Hatmoza? Surely he can speak for himself.

things?

1) I noted that his reason for linkz was likely different than the others due to A) the vote B) the separate post. This is not explanation, it is analysis.

2) I did explain sabby's as a sign of agreement with the FoS (or at least with the reasons beind it).

3) dunno is not an explanation.

4) dunno is not an explanation and I noted the inconsistancy with yesterday's behavior, hence further analysis.

 

Now what do you have to say on the deaths, the night, hat's vootes/fos?

Can't say I'm suprised that Baalzamon was killed,  from my experience mafia goes always for the players who remain quiet and not suspected.  So it was either him or Vette, who also was very quiet.

What should I say about the night? It was a damn long one, that's what I can say.

Hat's vote and his FoSes are just weird to me, but I want to hear an explanation from him, that's why I commented on your interpretation. Also, the speed he commented in the thread after 3ever opened up day two is amazing. As if he knew when day two begins.

Why am I not on that list?

I feel like you're just repeating someone else's words.