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Linkzmax on 24 June 2011
Silver-Tiger said:

OK, I doubt I can do anything to blow away your suspicions, but I would really like to know why you're so suspicious of me. From what I've got, the reason is because I made that joke about a SK. If you found it weird that this was the first thing that came to my mind, so be it, but that was really the first thing I could think of. It's day one and we can't draw any conclusions yet, because we have no confirmed nor revealed roles yet.

Well I had a linked role the previous two games, so instinctively the first thing that came to my mind was a similar pairing. I just assumed that since you were also a sibling last round you would think the same first. For me, it's that the first thing that came to your mind was a situation where ABC is town and he's linked to non-mafia, as if you know he isn't mafia or linked to mafia. Then again unless GOW let the scumteam converse already, you couldn't know that unless a scummate already hinted he was linked to ABC.



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Linkzmax on 24 June 2011
hatmoza said:

Because I selfishly want to figure out how roles are characterized using my role and towniness alignment as a control measure. See, I want to find the connection between alignment in hopes of pinning the scum down based on characters alone. A page I  pulled from Gnizmo's book.

I won't question it anymore because all I need now is a dead body in the OP to confirm one thing for me, and then I can begin to lay the hammer on my suspects.  It could be very much a short rope, but my character is very telling, because as someone else mentioned (I forget who) the theme of the game is definitely based upon rivals.

The only way you could understand it is if I gave up my role... which is something I'm notoriously known for doing.

I see. I just happen to be of the mindset that if the theme is explained BEFORE the net is drawn around scum, then they'll be clued in on how to fake their way out of such a trap.

My character does have a rival, but I'm not convinced that character exists in this game either. I shall certainly be on the lookout for someone claiming him though.



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Linkzmax on 24 June 2011
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Less than 24 hours remaining. Day one ends at 1 PM GMT on the 24th of June (With a possible extension upto 25th June at the same time).

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/

GOW, please respond to http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4117640

Also, how are you going to count players without a vote placed?(As No Lynch or simply abstaining?)

 

Radish has also moved up above No Lynch on my suspect list. Gotta jet, but hopefully I can post from my phone today to explain and comment until the deadline.



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Linkzmax on 24 June 2011
radishhead said:
Linkzmax said:
radishhead said:
Upon actually reading Hatmosa's post, I'm pretty impressed with the analysis. I'm not going to place a vote yet though, since this seems to be mainly derived from analysis of 1 or 2 posts.

I nearly forgot you said this. Why would you not actually read the post the first time?

Hat annoys me, and I didn't believe that he'd say anything that I didn't already think for myself in his post - turns out that I was wrong.

 

Quote = Truck:

So you will be around again before the day is over, or do you plan on disappearing? I say that because voting no lynch this early starts to shut discussion down.

If you had to vote someone today, who would it be and why? @Baal: Same question.

Also, I have no resentment towards you, but the others are right. 'I'm confused'/'I don't know what to think'/'I have no idea'/etc. don't really belong in Mafia, and certainly should not be volunteered "opinions" when you haven't posted in a while and don't have(or can't make up) anything to actually offer. If someone asks you what you think of a topic and you're undecided then maybe you can say such then, but it'd be much better to read things over and at least lean to one side or the other.(Or if you're scum pretend to do so) Just some advice.

/quote
I still don't think that I'm going to be voting anyone for now - the accusations at the moment are very flimsy, and definitely not worth putting a lynch on. "I'm confused" was actually me trying to look a bit suspicious so that people would have something to talk about. The game was starting a bit slowly, in my opinion.

 



So there's no mutual hate according to you, but you ignore his posts at times because he annoys you? This makes me think you're not scumhunting as town or you're scum and already know if the content of the post has merit or not.

Then you have a mistake of attributing my post as Truck's, again displaying that you aren't paying attention.

Finally, you first say you were intentionally saying something suspicious to get discussion going. Then you change the story to trying to be suspicious so that mafia won't kill you, because you seem to think you're important. All things considered, if you are town you aren't normally going to be killed in tyhe first few nights UNLESS you actually give a reason for mafia to think you should be a target.(Which may be what you've done, which could also be what you want)
On the other hand, I don't think I've ever seen you as mafia. Were you worried what people would think of you being around if you know that you won't be night-killed barring a vig or SK shot?



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radishhead on 24 June 2011
Linkzmax said:
radishhead said:
Linkzmax said:
radishhead said:
Upon actually reading Hatmosa's post, I'm pretty impressed with the analysis. I'm not going to place a vote yet though, since this seems to be mainly derived from analysis of 1 or 2 posts.

I nearly forgot you said this. Why would you not actually read the post the first time?

Hat annoys me, and I didn't believe that he'd say anything that I didn't already think for myself in his post - turns out that I was wrong.

 

Quote = Truck:

So you will be around again before the day is over, or do you plan on disappearing? I say that because voting no lynch this early starts to shut discussion down.

If you had to vote someone today, who would it be and why? @Baal: Same question.

Also, I have no resentment towards you, but the others are right. 'I'm confused'/'I don't know what to think'/'I have no idea'/etc. don't really belong in Mafia, and certainly should not be volunteered "opinions" when you haven't posted in a while and don't have(or can't make up) anything to actually offer. If someone asks you what you think of a topic and you're undecided then maybe you can say such then, but it'd be much better to read things over and at least lean to one side or the other.(Or if you're scum pretend to do so) Just some advice.

/quote
I still don't think that I'm going to be voting anyone for now - the accusations at the moment are very flimsy, and definitely not worth putting a lynch on. "I'm confused" was actually me trying to look a bit suspicious so that people would have something to talk about. The game was starting a bit slowly, in my opinion.

 



So there's no mutual hate according to you, but you ignore his posts at times because he annoys you? This makes me think you're not scumhunting as town or you're scum and already know if the content of the post has merit or not.

Then you have a mistake of attributing my post as Truck's, again displaying that you aren't paying attention.

Finally, you first say you were intentionally saying something suspicious to get discussion going. Then you change the story to trying to be suspicious so that mafia won't kill you, because you seem to think you're important. All things considered, if you are town you aren't normally going to be killed in tyhe first few nights UNLESS you actually give a reason for mafia to think you should be a target.(Which may be what you've done, which could also be what you want)
On the other hand, I don't think I've ever seen you as mafia. Were you worried what people would think of you being around if you know that you won't be night-killed barring a vig or SK shot?

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GodOfWar_3ever on 24 June 2011

Since the day has been inconclusive, I'm pushing the deadline till 25th June at 1 PM GMT. Which is around 22 and a half hours from now.
I hope you guys decide on whatever you want to do by then.
I'm using the majority system...no plurality bullshit.

Votals coming up.



GodOfWar_3ever on 24 June 2011
Player Name L-6 L-5
Final-Fan hephaestos TruckOSaurus
hatmoza Final-Fan
Silver-Tiger Linkzmax Prof
No Lynch Radishhead Baalzamon

Voting History

On Players

Final Fan (L-5) - hatmoza, hephaestos, TruckOSaurus, (hatmoza)

A Bad Clown (L-7) - Prof, (Prof)

hatmoza (L-6) - TruckOSaurus, Final-Fan, (TruckOSaurus)

Silver-Tiger (L-5) - Linkzmax, Prof

No Lynch (L-5) - Radishhead, Baalzamon

By Players

hatmoza - Final-Fan (Unvote)

Prof - A Bad Clown (Unvote) Silver-Tiger

TruckOSaurus - hatmoza (Unvote) Final-Fan

Linkzmax - Silver-Tiger

Final-Fan - hatmoza

hephaestos - Final-Fan 

Baalzamon - No Lynch

Radishhead - No Lynch



Vetteman94 on 24 June 2011

My current suspicions givin the days activity thus far.

Silver Tiger - I will admit I didnt see much of a problem with his comment,  Him talking about Linkz possible role being Psychiatrist seemed at first like he was trying to set a trap and to get Linkz confirm that he was. Only for Silver Tiger to be the actual Psychiatrist and catching him in a lie.  I didnt understand how people could think he was scum just talking about it. But him backing down from the comment to say it was a joke was quite unexpected and that is what has me slightly suspicious of him.

radish - While I dont share hatmoza's complete disgust for radish,  his playstyle does irk me.  Him sayng he is confused is just an easy way to hop on bandwagons and not pay attention, it also allows him to be non-committal.  I would have no problem voting him just to get him out of here if this is the way he will continue to play

Final-Fan & hatmoza - Now hatmozas had a really good post on why Final-Fan was a good target for a first day lynch.  Which i would have had no problem going along with as the reasonings were sound.  But hatmoza backing off for what seems to be no reason that I can see, seems odd.  So I am still suspicious of Final-Fan, for reasons in hatmozas post, but that suspicion has dwindled a little and has grown on hatmoza.  hatmoza is normally bold on the first day so going on the attack in that post against Final-Fan makes sense,  but he is also not someone who lets off so easily, his grudge against radish is evident to that.  So my suspicion has grew on him a little. 



Baalzamon on 24 June 2011
Silver-Tiger said:
Also, Sabby and Baalzamon are awfully quiet.

Baalzamon gave his vote for No lynch, so he seems to be finished for today. I don't like this attitude, giving his vote and then hide..

And Sabby is borderline lurking. He basically posted his introduction and then vanished.

I'm not done for the day.  I'm simply analyzing the posts, and quite frankly, have deemed that no response is necessary to any of them.  If I see something that is actually worth discussing, I will discuss it.



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A Bad Clown on 24 June 2011
Linkzmax said:
radishhead said:
Linkzmax said:
radishhead said:
Upon actually reading Hatmosa's post, I'm pretty impressed with the analysis. I'm not going to place a vote yet though, since this seems to be mainly derived from analysis of 1 or 2 posts.

I nearly forgot you said this. Why would you not actually read the post the first time?

Hat annoys me, and I didn't believe that he'd say anything that I didn't already think for myself in his post - turns out that I was wrong.

 

Quote = Truck:

So you will be around again before the day is over, or do you plan on disappearing? I say that because voting no lynch this early starts to shut discussion down.

If you had to vote someone today, who would it be and why? @Baal: Same question.

Also, I have no resentment towards you, but the others are right. 'I'm confused'/'I don't know what to think'/'I have no idea'/etc. don't really belong in Mafia, and certainly should not be volunteered "opinions" when you haven't posted in a while and don't have(or can't make up) anything to actually offer. If someone asks you what you think of a topic and you're undecided then maybe you can say such then, but it'd be much better to read things over and at least lean to one side or the other.(Or if you're scum pretend to do so) Just some advice.

/quote
I still don't think that I'm going to be voting anyone for now - the accusations at the moment are very flimsy, and definitely not worth putting a lynch on. "I'm confused" was actually me trying to look a bit suspicious so that people would have something to talk about. The game was starting a bit slowly, in my opinion.

 



So there's no mutual hate according to you, but you ignore his posts at times because he annoys you? This makes me think you're not scumhunting as town or you're scum and already know if the content of the post has merit or not.

Then you have a mistake of attributing my post as Truck's, again displaying that you aren't paying attention.

Finally, you first say you were intentionally saying something suspicious to get discussion going. Then you change the story to trying to be suspicious so that mafia won't kill you, because you seem to think you're important. All things considered, if you are town you aren't normally going to be killed in tyhe first few nights UNLESS you actually give a reason for mafia to think you should be a target.(Which may be what you've done, which could also be what you want)
On the other hand, I don't think I've ever seen you as mafia. Were you worried what people would think of you being around if you know that you won't be night-killed barring a vig or SK shot?

I think Radish was mafia with NotStan and Dsister a couple rounds ago, but he died very early on. It was during your game I think when we were all World of Warcraft characters.



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