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Final-Fan on 24 June 2011

Actually my theory could work if he's scum too, it's purely an idea about his character identity based on his comments so far on various subjects.



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hatmoza on 24 June 2011

Unvote Final-Fan



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Hephaestos on 24 June 2011
hatmoza said:


Because I selfishly want to figure out how roles are characterized using my role and towniness alignment as a control measure. See, I want to find the connection between alignment in hopes of pinning the scum down based on characters alone. A page I  pulled from Gnizmo's book.

I won't question it anymore because all I need now is a dead body in the OP to confirm one thing for me, and then I can begin to lay the hammer on my suspects.  It could be very much a short rope, but my character is very telling, because as someone else mentioned (I forget who) the theme of the game is definitely based upon rivals.

The only way you could understand it is if I gave up my role... which is something I'm notoriously known for doing.

No, no one said that. They talked about opposite sides but not rivals..... but that makes a lot of sense considering the wide array of sources we seem to have. (and it's a clever way to set the game).



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Hephaestos on 24 June 2011
hatmoza said:
Unvote Final-Fan


what made you unvote?

All I see is a plea, but no real indication of anything. I might have missed something though, please do tell.

 

is it him finding out your character? cause there have been big hints if it's what I think ^^ so not too spectacular.



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theprof00 on 24 June 2011
hatmoza said:
theprof00 said:
I think Hatmoza is trying to start a quick lynch based on some pretty superficial evidence.
I also think my character is interesting, and it does fit with the "company" theme.
If anything, I think we should all be wary of people bringing up companies (in fact, my character gets fucked by one).
It's possible that name =/= alignment, even should be figure out the ties. I don't think gow who knowingly make the claims so easy. But, then again, it's also possible that he gave the mafia safe name claims, like linkz did in his round.
Not sure how much I can add.

It's also kinda dumb for Hat to try a train on someone so early in the game, but it's also kinda his strategy.

I'll just FoS him for now, though I'd rather vote for him. It doesn't look likely that he'll be voted today though, and I myself am willing to give him some time.

FoS Hatmoza

 

Summarization to Prof's FoS:

hatmoza is usually bold and starts early lynch trains day one. It's a common strategy that I'm familiar with. Somehow, I feel the need to call it stupid this game around. Also, I want to give his theory some time to marinate, but I also wouldn't mind lynching him today.

See, I think I'm being subtle, but you read it pretty much exact. I was hoping you'd figure it out, but not hoping that you'd spill the beans.

unFoS hatmoza

I did get that parroting by ST though. He pretty much said exactly what I did, and even FoSed too. What it means, I'm not sure, but it guarantees it wasn't a total waste.

Also interesting timing that you said this after ST made his post.



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radishhead on 24 June 2011
Linkzmax said:
radishhead said:
Upon actually reading Hatmosa's post, I'm pretty impressed with the analysis. I'm not going to place a vote yet though, since this seems to be mainly derived from analysis of 1 or 2 posts.

I nearly forgot you said this. Why would you not actually read the post the first time?

Hat annoys me, and I didn't believe that he'd say anything that I didn't already think for myself in his post - turns out that I was wrong.

 

Quote = Truck:

So you will be around again before the day is over, or do you plan on disappearing? I say that because voting no lynch this early starts to shut discussion down.

If you had to vote someone today, who would it be and why? @Baal: Same question.

Also, I have no resentment towards you, but the others are right. 'I'm confused'/'I don't know what to think'/'I have no idea'/etc. don't really belong in Mafia, and certainly should not be volunteered "opinions" when you haven't posted in a while and don't have(or can't make up) anything to actually offer. If someone asks you what you think of a topic and you're undecided then maybe you can say such then, but it'd be much better to read things over and at least lean to one side or the other.(Or if you're scum pretend to do so) Just some advice.

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I still don't think that I'm going to be voting anyone for now - the accusations at the moment are very flimsy, and definitely not worth putting a lynch on. "I'm confused" was actually me trying to look a bit suspicious so that people would have something to talk about. The game was starting a bit slowly, in my opinion.



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Hephaestos on 24 June 2011
radishhead said:

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I still don't think that I'm going to be voting anyone for now - the accusations at the moment are very flimsy, and definitely not worth putting a lynch on. "I'm confused" was actually me trying to look a bit suspicious so that people would have something to talk about. The game was starting a bit slowly, in my opinion.

OMG... dude by now you should have learned that looking suspicious only has one possible use... get low on the scum's radar. You doing it to give people something to talk about can have only one effect... distract people from what could be potential leads.

A) You're using a double edged sword and you've managed to cutting the town with the blunt edge... this ain't gonna end well....

B) You just made a very poor excuse for whatever that was cause presure is already getting to you.

-> i'm leaning on B

HorSe Radish



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radishhead on 24 June 2011
Hephaestos said:
radishhead said:

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I still don't think that I'm going to be voting anyone for now - the accusations at the moment are very flimsy, and definitely not worth putting a lynch on. "I'm confused" was actually me trying to look a bit suspicious so that people would have something to talk about. The game was starting a bit slowly, in my opinion.

 

OMG... dude by now you should have learned that looking suspicious only has one possible use... get low on the scum's radar. You doing it to give people something to talk about can have only one effect... distract people from what could be potential leads.

A) You're using a double edged sword and you've managed to cutting the town with the blunt edge... this ain't gonna end well....

B) You just made a very poor excuse for whatever that was cause presure is already getting to you.

-> i'm leaning on B

HorSe Radish

It's more strategic than that- if I can convince the Mafia team that I'm a suspicious character, then they will be less likely to kill me at night. All things considered, that's good for the town.



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Silver-Tiger on 24 June 2011
hatmoza said:
Silver-Tiger said:

FoS Hatmoza
for trying to start a lynchtrain based on less than vague information. I don't think him saying he has an interesting name is any tell. Your vote is on him because he said he has an interesting name? Didn't you actually do the same?:

Hatmoza said:
I believed at the time that my role was probably the most random, and interesting character out of us. I still do.

Actually, you say your role is even more interesting, but you vote for him? Irony anyone?

And also
FoS TruckOSaurus

for quickly bandwagoning on Final-Fan without giving any reason.


And if you read the post more clearly you would have noticed that my main point was to show that F-F was not the only person with an interesting name.

Also, you are in no position to cherry picking posts or FoSing.


What, you want to take my right to FoSing or analyzing posts now? Get off your high horse, you're not the only one with suspicions.



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Silver-Tiger on 24 June 2011

Also, Sabby and Baalzamon are awfully quiet.

Baalzamon gave his vote for No lynch, so he seems to be finished for today. I don't like this attitude, giving his vote and then hide..

And Sabby is borderline lurking. He basically posted his introduction and then vanished.



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