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Final-Fan on 23 June 2011
Linkzmax said:
I'm not asking anyone to vote for him. I'm wondering if anyone else thought there was a slip. There's still nearly 2 days left before night, so my interest is to see what other's think before I spill the beans. I don't think any other developments will change my opinion, but I also think my explanation will stifle much of anything else and I don't want that either.

Though I will say that with timing being of the essence prof should un-random-vote ABC and find someone else. I also believe he is pro-town, though his posts so far have been anti-town. If scum didn't already know the flavor split, as in which names are on which side, then he started quite a discussion to clue them in.

Actually I'd like it if everyone voted for who they thought was scum. Too often do days end with players having no vote trail to check them on in later days. With 12 players it should take 7 to lynch, and I doubt we'll come to a consensus, so there's no worry of a rushed lynch.

I stand corrected. 

However, acting like "nearly two days" (IRL) is a lot of time for people to respond, and you to respond to them, and then they make a vote, is just foolish.  By now I would expect you to have a more realistic idea of the turnaround time on getting a majority of people (even just the ones making an effort to participate) to respond to something. 



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Final-Fan on 23 June 2011
hatmoza said:
Final-Fan said:
If you hate radish so bad, hatmoza, why are you trying to get ME lynched? Have I somehow aroused genuine suspicion from you?

I'm anxious to know what's so interesting about your character -so- I want you dead day one. If it's as interesting as you make it, it should be helpful to us to clarify it ... by lynching you.

I already told you it's the identity of my character, not his abilities, that was so remarkable.  I don't see how it could be worth lynching me just to find out that information.  Anyway, this strikes me as a terrible idea all round, at least the way you stated it. 

Vote hatmoza. 



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hatmoza on 23 June 2011
Final-Fan said:
hatmoza said:
Final-Fan said:
If you hate radish so bad, hatmoza, why are you trying to get ME lynched? Have I somehow aroused genuine suspicion from you?

I'm anxious to know what's so interesting about your character -so- I want you dead day one. If it's as interesting as you make it, it should be helpful to us to clarify it ... by lynching you.

I already told you it's the identity of my character, not his abilities, that was so remarkable.  I don't see how it could be worth lynching me just to find out that information.  Anyway, this strikes me as a terrible idea all round, at least the way you stated it. 

Vote hatmoza. 

 

 it was your very first post that got me excited about lynching you. The "OMG my role is better than sliced bread" post.If you want an elaborate answer. Multiple things bug me about you. Fortunate for you, it's not the kind of stuff that can't piece together a good argument to rally people behind me.

First, I'm pretty sure multiple players have interesting roles, the way you came out and boosted about yours struck me as someone trying to feel the playing field -get a sense of what's out there, what the potential threats are to you or your scum buddies. And to be completely honest, I bit my tongue from concurring with your post at the time because I was paranoid that you had some kind of agenda, which came out to be true:

[[Final-Fan 2 days ago

I didn't mean my role was that interesting, I meant my name was that interesting. I probably said that because I was wondering if other people had characters with equally interesting names, but maybe you don't. ...And maybe you're mafia!]]

This post reeks. Even after a couple players called you out, you insisted on encouraging people to come forward with their characters. Labeling those who didn't have anything interesting to say as mafia...

I  believed at the time that my role was probably the most random, and interesting character out of us. I still do.

 

Also, I found it strange that you never asked for an explanation of my vote on you until recently. Almost as if you didn't want to aggravate the situation on yourself. You ignored it. You had time to flirt with baalz "sweet ass" comment but you timely ignored me until now. I don't know about you, but when I'm mafia, I usually ignore people who correctly place a vote on my scum ass - hoping they'll eventually unvote me. If the vote persists, I question it later. You're doing the same exact thing, which is giving the illusion that you're not being defensive by being passive. What's good about this technique, is that it also allows the opportunity to sneak in a revenge vote without other players realizing it. Like you did above ...

Also, you're not as clueless as say Truck's or Linkz because you're not questioning the main topics of today, and you really never chipped in your 2 cents to what kind of players this mafia game consists of. This specifically makes me want to see you hang today. You know more than you're sharing. But you're intentionally not sharing anything -just drawing information ... observing would be a better word.



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radishhead on 23 June 2011

I reckon that this is a power-game, so I don't blame FF for being excited about his role. I don't want to vote him on the chance that he's some sort of super-role like a Cop-Vig



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Soleron on 23 June 2011

Can't believe you guys are up to 30 (or indeed are still counting).

Now the player count is down to something reasonable and term has ended I will join the next round.



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Hephaestos on 23 June 2011
Soleron said:
Can't believe you guys are up to 30 (or indeed are still counting).

Now the player count is down to something reasonable and term has ended I will join the next round.


be carefull... some players might want to ride you like a poney....

 

it'll be fun seeing you back.



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Hephaestos on 23 June 2011

I'll put my money on Hat, his suspicion is well thought out and I think FF's comment is more bizzare than STs.

i'd like to point out a link from early on in the case FF ends up mafia... for the record : http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4113914

So:

Vote FF
FoS Linkz (conditional to FF)


remember that 7 votes is a lynch guys, so don't go to quick.



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Silver-Tiger on 23 June 2011
Linkzmax said:
Silver-Tiger said:
Linkzmax said:
Silver-Tiger said:
Linkzmax said:
I'm not asking anyone to vote for him. I'm wondering if anyone else thought there was a slip. There's still nearly 2 days left before night, so my interest is to see what other's think before I spill the beans. I don't think any other developments will change my opinion, but I also think my explanation will stifle much of anything else and I don't want that either.

Though I will say that with timing being of the essence prof should un-random-vote ABC and find someone else. I also believe he is pro-town, though his posts so far have been anti-town. If scum didn't already know the flavor split, as in which names are on which side, then he started quite a discussion to clue them in.

Actually I'd like it if everyone voted for who they thought was scum. Too often do days end with players having no vote trail to check them on in later days. With 12 players it should take 7 to lynch, and I doubt we'll come to a consensus, so there's no worry of a rushed lynch.


Ok, I'm the only one here who is confused with this sentence? You think all posts have been anti-town to you, but still you think he's protown?  If I would read his posts as anti-town, I would sure have a scum vibe on him.

You also said you told us why you voted me, yet you haven't told us.

I think he's pro-town because of you. I may be reading too much into what I believe is a slip and time will tell, but for now I have no interest in your so called vibe.

Also, I never said I have explained why I voted you.

Ahh, I missed a word in my post. What I meant is:
You also said you will tell us why you voted me, yet you haven't told us.

I thought you might have meant that, but I already addressed that with the BIUed

As for the recent theories, I don't believe you are the SK, should one even exist. I'd peg you as mafia.

I did misread you though. You meant that if you were in my shoes and read someone's posts as anti-town then you'd have a scum vibe on them. I thought you were trying to say you have a scum vibe on ABC. I doubt you were just joking, but my curiosity now has me wondering what you actually make of him. I'd agree that role speculation isn't helpful now, so focus on alignment and why.

So far I don't see him as mafia, although his comments about  SDF and the PS3 are..interesting. I'll be sure to remember them if something comes up that is connected to this. It seems like he wants to arouse attention with comments. I wonder why.



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TruckOSaurus on 23 June 2011
hatmoza said:
TruckOSaurus said:

My character doesn't fit with any company whatsoever either so I guess that puts me in a different angle as well.


Then you are related to a website, presumably a video game website. Try and keep up.

I won't get into specifics but no it's not.



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TruckOSaurus on 23 June 2011
hatmoza said:
Final-Fan said:

I already told you it's the identity of my character, not his abilities, that was so remarkable.  I don't see how it could be worth lynching me just to find out that information.  Anyway, this strikes me as a terrible idea all round, at least the way you stated it. 

Vote hatmoza. 

 

 it was your very first post that got me excited about lynching you. The "OMG my role is better than sliced bread" post.If you want an elaborate answer. Multiple things bug me about you. Fortunate for you, it's not the kind of stuff that can't piece together a good argument to rally people behind me.

First, I'm pretty sure multiple players have interesting roles, the way you came out and boosted about yours struck me as someone trying to feel the playing field -get a sense of what's out there, what the potential threats are to you or your scum buddies. And to be completely honest, I bit my tongue from concurring with your post at the time because I was paranoid that you had some kind of agenda, which came out to be true:

[[Final-Fan 2 days ago

I didn't mean my role was that interesting, I meant my name was that interesting. I probably said that because I was wondering if other people had characters with equally interesting names, but maybe you don't. ...And maybe you're mafia!]]

This post reeks. Even after a couple players called you out, you insisted on encouraging people to come forward with their characters. Labeling those who didn't have anything interesting to say as mafia...

I  believed at the time that my role was probably the most random, and interesting character out of us. I still do.

 

Also, I found it strange that you never asked for an explanation of my vote on you until recently. Almost as if you didn't want to aggravate the situation on yourself. You ignored it. You had time to flirt with baalz "sweet ass" comment but you timely ignored me until now. I don't know about you, but when I'm mafia, I usually ignore people who correctly place a vote on my scum ass - hoping they'll eventually unvote me. If the vote persists, I question it later. You're doing the same exact thing, which is giving the illusion that you're not being defensive by being passive. What's good about this technique, is that it also allows the opportunity to sneak in a revenge vote without other players realizing it. Like you did above ...

Also, you're not as clueless as say Truck's or Linkz because you're not questioning the main topics of today, and you really never chipped in your 2 cents to what kind of players this mafia game consists of. This specifically makes me want to see you hang today. You know more than you're sharing. But you're intentionally not sharing anything -just drawing information ... observing would be a better word.

Wow, I really didn't think you could make a compelling case against Final-Fan with only a few posts. I stand corrected and I change my vote:

Vote: Final-Fan



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