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FaRmLaNd said:

Just horrible. Build up that wall of separation of church and state please, thats all I've got to say really.

That doesn't really exist in Israel. The counrts are ran by Rabbis, and non-Jews can't even get married in Israel.



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RageBot said:
Xen said:
Just one of the reasons why my country is going to shit, and why most religion is nothing less than poison for the mind (far east religions are mostly good!).

I'm happy for the dog, the best way this could turn out is the way it did.
Also, stoning by kids? Sick fucks.



Yeah. A lot of pepole hate the orthodox community here, they're like the Hammish in the USA, but they get (a lot) of government funding, never pay taxes, assault animals or pepole etc etc.

Don't you mean Amish?



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RageBot said:
Xen said:
Just one of the reasons why my country is going to shit, and why most religion is nothing less than poison for the mind (far east religions are mostly good!).

I'm happy for the dog, the best way this could turn out is the way it did.
Also, stoning by kids? Sick fucks.



Yeah. A lot of pepole hate the orthodox community here, they're like the Hammish in the USA, but they get (a lot) of government funding, never pay taxes, assault animals or pepole etc etc.

And the worst is... there's no way to stop them from overtaking the country like cancer.

Unless the politicians grow balls, kick the religious parties out of the coalition, and revoke their citizenship that is.



oh...story turned out to be FAKE. apparently it went from a dog getting into their courtroom and the dogcatcher being called....to dog being sentenced to stoning because journalists fucking suck and they were all building off of each others misreporting of the event.



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I guess it's stuff like this that makes me an atheist.



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xinstantnoodlez said:
I guess it's stuff like this that makes me an atheist.


unethical journalism makes you an atheist?

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Have you heard the one about the dog who walked into a rabbinical court?

Here's how the BBC reported it: A pooch made its way into a beth din in Jerusalem's ultra-Orthodox neighborhood of Mea Shearim. One of the judges, believing the dog to be the reincarnation of a now-deceased lawyer whom the court had cursed some two decades earlier, sentenced the dog to death by stoning, and ordered that the sentence be carried out by children. The dog escaped before the sentence could be carried out. Dog-lovers have filed a complaint against the court.

This story has it all. Religious zealots! Animal rights activists! Blood libel! Children! Ingredients that tend to nourish the more primitive regions of our minds and starve the rest. Best of all, it runs under 200 words and stars a dog.

The story's only deficiency is that it comes up short in the being-factually-true department.


As it turns out, the BBC, along with Agence France Presse, Time Magazine, and a handful other news outlets got the story from Ynet, the website for Yediot Ahronot, Israel's second-largest newspaper. Ynet's story says that the head of the court denied that such an incident had taken place, a detail that was left out of the original BBC, Time, and AFP stories. The paper is also alone in noting that there was no official ruling, just a rabbi telling kids to throw rocks at a dog.

Ynet didn't do any original reporting. They got the story from this in Behadrei Hadarim, a small Hebrew-language news outlet for Israel's ultra-Orthodox community. The Bhadrei Hadarim's reports that it got the story from someone who was present, but it doesn't bother to give that person's name.

Israel's third-largest paper, which doesn't have an English edition, also ran the story. They subsequently ran an apology, noting what the court said actually happened: A dog walked into a courtroom, and someone called the dogcatcher.

How did a story get from a single, unattributed source in a community news outlet to appearing on some of the world's most respected news outlets, with apparently nobody making any attempts to verify it?

After all, it's not the first time this sort of thing has happened. Just a few weeks ago, The New York Times, CNN, The Guardian, BBC, Agence France Presse, and Reuters all reported the discovery of dozens of bodies buried on a farm outside Houston. It turns out that police were investigating a tip from a self-described psychic, who not surprisingly turned out to be completely wrong.

"In the frenzied first 30 minutes of activity, one news organization after another built its wrong reporting upon the wrong reporting of others – The Times citing Reuters citing 'local media' citing, in some cases, nobody," writes media critic Bob Garfield on Mashable.

Garfield has a point: Repeating what has been said by other news outlets doesn't create knowledge. It just remixes it, sometimes with heavy distortion and amplification.

As budgets and news cycles shrink, piggybacking on other people's reporting, however sketchy, becomes inevitable. When this is done without verification, errors become increasingly frequent. So while "rabbi stones dog" may not be a true story, it's a useful cautionary tale for journalists, and that includes us. After all, you know what they say about those who live in glass houses.

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MrBubbles said:
oh...story turned out to be FAKE. apparently it went from a dog getting into their courtroom and the dogcatcher being called....to dog being sentenced to stoning because journalists fucking suck and they were all building off of each others misreporting of the event.

Damn. Though this game me a new thread ideea.



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Man I told you this story was fake, it was so blatently obvious. I'm suprised anyone was niave enough to believe this story lol not trying to insult anyones intelligence but it was so blatently obvious. re-incarnations, stoning sentence, rabbi saying it never happened, only one media outlet being the source.

If your story is reported and everyone qoutes the one outlet saying they were never their. Then the source story itself is full of holes and the story admits that the people involved said the story never happened. Those are some pretty bright red lights telling you, umm maybe the story isn't really factual.

Oh well it provided a good laugh, especially the comment that said "This is why I'm an Athiest" lol your an athiest because of lies and false information.

Geez before judging someone and insulting them and talking about what they did, maybe you should check your source and question its legitamacy! Otherwise you just look stupid. (Not trying to insult Sapphi but nobody seemed to listen when I said this was false, then it turns out false and everyones like Wow I'm suprised.



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So an Ultra-Orthodox paper made this up, then the mainstream media ran with it?

Huh



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