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Carl on 22 June 2011
NYANKS said:

The PS2 thing bothers me. Fine, you don't know where to put it. But you shouldn't you be trying to figure it out? I mean, it's undertracked by millions and still has sold more than DS, although people think otherwise.  I mean, shouldn't someone be assigned to figure this stuff out? I feel like it's probably not being given too much thought behind the scenes.


I would have brought it up, but it's been brought up so many times already, and ioi has actually told us why it hasn't been done.



                            

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BenVTrigger on 27 June 2011

I will say this.

I generally don't like to criticize this site's numbers because

A) Its my favorite website for gameing
B) Its free numbers who MOST of the time are pretty accurate.

But in the case of the Wii its simply overtracked and not just because of what NPD and shipment numbers say but also my own personal data from work. Even after the price cut the Wii has not been selling a significant amount. I'm sure its something that will be addressed however and I'm not gonna whine about it, but the console is not selling what Vgchartz is showing.



Lostplanet22 on 30 June 2011

Thought they adjusted it a little last time when the numbers were updated?



 

WiseOwl on 30 June 2011

The DS beat the Playstation 2 record. The Wii is leading all consoles by a 30+ million units and those are facts. Why are they the target for being overtracked.



Lostplanet22 on 30 June 2011
WiseOwl said:
The DS beat the Playstation 2 record. The Wii is leading all consoles by a 30+ million units and those are facts. Why are they the target for being overtracked.


Read the OP......



 

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Carl on 30 June 2011
RolStoppable said:
What a stupid thread title. For the future try to remember that you don't put a question mark after stating a fact.


Well, the DS was a fact but the Wii is questionable, despite how much it really does look over.
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Anyway. As an update, the DS was adjusted down recently. Updated figures show it at...

Worldwide - 146,071,401

America - 54,979,515

EMEAA - 58,346,899

Shipments show it at...

Worldwide - 146,420,000

America - 55,130,000

EMEAA - 58,530,000



                            

Carl on 30 June 2011
WiseOwl said:
The DS beat the Playstation 2 record. The Wii is leading all consoles by a 30+ million units and those are facts. Why are they the target for being overtracked.


The DS hasn't beaten the PS2 just yet.

And they are the "target" for it (Or were, in DS' case), because of the points in the OP. Read it.



                            

PizzaFaceGamer on 01 July 2011

I'm a big ninty guy and I have to admit they are both overtacked. Not sure if it's as much as you say, but overtracked nonetheless



Carl on 28 July 2011

Seems like the perfect time to bump this.

I will update it when I get on a computer. Its clear though that Wii is overtracked massively, 3DS is probably undertracked... Im not sure about DS, not had a proper look.

If someone cares enough to do a mini update (VGC sales / Shipments of all big 3) Ill be happy! :)



                            

Carl on 28 July 2011
Carl2291 said:

Updating this thread now we have the new set of Financials.

Carl2291 said:

Wii Worldwide -
87,643,812 units sold as of end of June
87,570,000 shipped at the end of June
Hugely overtracked again. Something seriously wrong with the tracking here, honestly.

Wii Americas -
42,100,209 units sold as of end of June
41,710,000 shipped at the end of June
Hugely overtracked here too, still. Has been obvious for like 3 Months to everyone with eyes.

DS Worldwide -
147,634,754 units sold as of end of June
147,860,000 shipped at the end of June
Overtracked once again. No where near enough units on shelves/ships. Also...

DS Americas -
55,791,770 units sold as of end of June
55,690,000 shipped at the end of June

DS has sold more than it's shipped in Americas once again here.

So you know I'm not making the numbers up... http://www.vgchartz.com/article/87380/nintendo-loses-323m-cuts-3ds-price-globally-lowers-forecasts/#comment_432733 ... They come from Nintendo.

So yeah. This is the 2nd Quarter in a row where Wii/DS have been overtracked.

Just as an addition, I'm gonna look at the 3DS. I think it's been undertracked, but who knows?

3DS Worldwide -
3,140,231 units sold as of end of June
4,320,000 shipped at the end of June

3DS EMEAA (Others) -
904,883 units sold as of end of June
1,630,000 shipped at the end of June

EMEAA looks fairly hugely undertracked to me, especially considering that they shipped an extra 300,000 3DS systems there over the last 3 Months.


Okay. Last bump again, with updated figures. Wii/DS once again overtracked here. I seriously think 3DS is under.

Just looking at figures too, PSP looks fairly hugely undertracked.

WW Shipments - 71,300,000
WW VGC Sales - 68,619,411

As another addition, PS3 also looks overtracked ~150k, although this one's less obvious, and might not be touched.
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Now. What will the big adjustments do to the sales for 2011? Currently for our figures, end of June stood at something like this -

ethomaz said:

2011 WORLDWIDE HARDWARE SALES -

ConsoleYearly (change)Total
PS3 4,959,192 (-66%) 51,312,378
Wii 4,459,747 (-75%) 87,643,854
DS 4,388,533 (-79%) 147,561,724
X360 4,195,923 (-69%) 54,584,564
PSP 3,139,460 (-66%) 68,592,995
3DS 3,139,255 (-) 3,139,255
PS2 1,201,044 (-74%) 143,143,044
Total25,483,154(-69%)  

 

Taking ~800k from Wii would put it at ~3.65 Million units for the Year. Below the 360, and over 1 Million units behind PS3.

The DS needs adjusting down around 350k, so that would put the DS at ~4 Million for the Year

PS3, if ioi and the team think it needs doing, will be adjusted around 150k. Would put the figures at ~4.8 Million, still 1st place for the Year.

Both PSP and 3DS look undertracked, so it's hard to say what would happen with that "battle".

PS2 is consitantly undertracked, nothing will be done about it for a long, long time. I mean, it shipped more (1.4M) in the June Quarter alone than VGC have it selling for the entire Year.