kowenicki said: I think it's about time some of the "smaller" European nations residents woke up and realised that all the subsidies they had over recent years are now over and it's pay back time. Spain, Portugal, Greece, Ireland, full of lovely new airports, good highways, bloated public sectors, generous state provision, all paid for by everyone else. Parties over, you didnt evolve your economis adequately during the subsidy years so now there is nothing to fall back on. Imaginary booms fuelled by European money all to create new markets for the larger European nations. Now it's all gone wrong.... all so predictable.
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Oh please, talking out of a panflet is so easy to do. Knowing the actual reality of the countries, now that's a pain to do right?
I can't talk about Spain and Greece, but Portugal having new lovely airports (our main airport is 40 years old and our secondary airport was remodeled 10 years ago), good highways (only the four main highways are good, the rest are below european standards), bloated public sector (only 35% of the portuguese economy is based on the public sector), generous state provision (what generous state provision? The only ones that have it are immigrant families or ethical minorities. Everyone else is stuck on minimal state provisions, with the highest unemployement provision being 210 Eur, never going above that value and it's only valid to 2 years maximum unemployement time). Plus, we have the lowest unemployement rates and lowest public debt of the PIGS.
Do not try to talk as if everyone is in the same boat. Portugal's economy failed because of failed government policies and complete destruction of the primary and secondary sectors (our agriculture and industry is in shambles) and we're living on a 78% import to 23% export ratio, which has been screwing up our budgets since 1992. Plus, we also have the BPN bank crisis, which gave us an aditional 4B Eur debt.
I can agree that Portugal lived too long out of European financial aids and didn't meet the requirements for a growing market, though Portugal's economy never did have the strength to compete with the larger european economies. And I also agree that we really need to do much more as a country and as an economy to be worthy of the current FMI/European aid.
But let's make this very clear. This current economical situation isn't only caused by the poor market economy of these four countries. It's also an attack to the value of the Euro market itself, a complete unregulated, uncontrolled and unverified attack by the financial institutions like Standard&Poors which is creating a vicious cycle effect, with their constant unexplained rating changes and constant interest fluctuations which are murdering any chance of recovery from these countries.
Don't take this the wrong way, I know that my country has a lot of blame in this current situation, but there's a lot more going on than just poor financial decisions made by just four countries.
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