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kber81 on 05 January 2008
Jammerkid said:

That's funny, because I've never seen an adult with a psp, only kids. On the other hand, I know a lot of adults who have a ds. Looks like those schoolgirls prefer the psp's 'hardcore' gaming.

That's the point. Similarly to you I believe (actually it's a fact) DS audiency is far more diversified than PSP's (mostly teen male gamers). It looks like schoolgirl pissed you. Unnecessarily. Fact older people owns DS doesn't mean they know how to hack it. Also adults usually have more money than kids so they don't care Dogz cost them few dollars.



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Galaki on 05 January 2008
finalsquall said:
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Kasz216 on 05 January 2008
zackblue said:
lol wow, this is not funny anymore the whole community has turned to the nintendo fanboy side. This is terrible, what happened to the site when I first logged in?

Now its if psp wasnt hacked sales would be much lower..

Its like your turning common sense(wii games will be ported to PS360 -wtf?) into a biased statement.

We have people saying as wii as the dominant console PS360 will get ports and wii will be the main console.. then to wii achieving gears of war- call of duty 4 graphics, and now every thread people try to say wii is something more than a gaming machine and leaning towards a god?

This is scary and rediculus..

Look at Ipods. It would be very easy for Apple to make it so that only songs downloaded from Itunes would work on Ipods. They don't do this because if they didn't studies show they'd lose over half of their Ipod Sales (66%-75% something like that.) There was a big article about it in the economist a couple years ago.

Most people who pirate would never have bought the product they are pirating in the first place. What's any of that have to do with the Wii?

The two are very different issues, I don't know why the Wii is in this thread... other then it being mentioned by the Op.

But I can tell you that piracy isn't hurting the PSP, it's what is making it Nintendo's first real competition and not the Neo Geo Pocket or something.



Onimusha12 on 05 January 2008
phil said:
Onimusha12 said:
phil said:
Onimusha12 said:
Munkeh111 said:
Onimusha12 said:
Troll_Monster said:
Leni said:
come on, it's obvious that Wii's success is it's gameplay!!!
please, don't say "Ps3 has gameplay", is has the gamplay of Ps1!!!

also, Wii has not only mini-game titles, it also has hard-core games like "Metroid Prime3: Corruption" and "The Legend of Zelda", it also has the "PES 2008", "No More Heroes", "Resident Evil".......i don't think these games are for children ......

WII is for EVERYONE

i have both wii and ps3, i'm not a hard-core gamer as you may call it, but i prefer Wii, although they are both are awesome, Wii is more Fun to play, Ps3 is like Ps2 with better graphics, which is NOT enough to cause people to waste their money to get one!!!

 

I'll ask you a question, why can't we have games which are both fun and have great graphics?


Because these "Great Graphics", as you put it, this generation come at a heafty price for both consumer and developer.


Yes, but they still exist. I am sure many people will agree Uncharted, Ratchet, Bioshock, AC and CoD all had graphics and gameplay


Gameplay no better than any of the last generations with an analog stick. I Hope those graphics simply just "existing" is more than enough to compensate for the fact that they've handicapped the HD consoles in more ways than one. By your logic, if better graphics exist, and they do, and that's more than enough reason to demand them as the standard, why not just get a top of the line PC with even better gameplay (mouse & keyboard)? What? Too expensive you say? Well I guess you finally realized the dillemma with exceedingly expensive products vs more economic and appealing competitors.

Was one more generation really too much to wait for you to have those graphics? Did you really have to have them now at the cost of losing the lead to Nintendo? Was it worth alienating "Hardcore" genres even more?

Well I guess we can find a positive in anything though. While Nintendo is comfortably making an astronomical profit this generation with economic graphics they'll be more than ready next gen to take advantage of all the money Sony and Microsoft lost this generation inbuilding up the Industry's development standards and infrastructure to this unrealistic standard of graphics they've touted, which by next gen will be more than economic if by no other means than the fact that Sony and MS made it so at their own expense and loss this generation.

 

You're assuming here that gameplay on the Wii would be worse if it were just the old Gamecube controller. Good luck proving that one.


Resident Evil 4


 Yeah, I own RE4 on the Wii.  You haven't proven anything.


It proves controls are better on the Wii over the GC controller.



Onimusha12 on 05 January 2008

So now people are actually reduced to arguing circumstantial and anecdotal points just to prove that the PSP is being hacked just to defend its software sales?

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Whatever, it's not like I didn't make my share of excuses when I defended the Gamecube last generation.

The problem with the PSP is its limited game library. That's not to say it doesn't have good games, but I'll be damned if the average joe knows more than a handful of titles worth purchasing for it, if any at all. The console gets barely any exposure outside of a few featured games on a couple of commercials. I think a more plausable explanation would be that people are simply buying it for its secondary free media and online features which make it ideal for those very reasons.

Of course I can easily see how the explanation (Piracy) where its assumed people actually want the PSP for its games is more appealing to Sony supporters.



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windbane on 06 January 2008
Onimusha12 said:
So now people are actually reduced to arguing circumstantial and anecdotal points just to prove that the PSP is being hacked just to defend its software sales?

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Whatever, it's not like I didn't make my share of excuses when I defended the Gamecube last generation.

The problem with the PSP is its limited game library. That's not to say it doesn't have good games, but I'll be damned if the average joe knows more than a handful of titles worth purchasing for it, if any at all. The console gets barely any exposure outside of a few featured games on a couple of commercials. I think a more plausable explanation would be that people are simply buying it for its secondary free media and online features which make it ideal for those very reasons.

Of course I can easily see how the explanation (Piracy) where its assumed people actually want the PSP for its games is more appealing to Sony supporters.

Geez.  The PS3 already sells more software than the PSP, so it's clear that whatever the reason for PSP software sales being low (and it is piracy and multimedia features other than games driving sales, and lately lack of new titles), the PS3 is going to do better.

Also, you say that Bioshock and CoD4 could be done last gen but that is simply not true.  The atmosphere is absolutely needed for both and that is done far better with updated graphics.  Believe it or not, people are having a hell of a lot of fun playing PS3 games these days, too. 



Onimusha12 on 06 January 2008
windbane said:
Onimusha12 said:
So now people are actually reduced to arguing circumstantial and anecdotal points just to prove that the PSP is being hacked just to defend its software sales?

...

Whatever, it's not like I didn't make my share of excuses when I defended the Gamecube last generation.

The problem with the PSP is its limited game library. That's not to say it doesn't have good games, but I'll be damned if the average joe knows more than a handful of titles worth purchasing for it, if any at all. The console gets barely any exposure outside of a few featured games on a couple of commercials. I think a more plausable explanation would be that people are simply buying it for its secondary free media and online features which make it ideal for those very reasons.

Of course I can easily see how the explanation (Piracy) where its assumed people actually want the PSP for its games is more appealing to Sony supporters.

Geez.  The PS3 already sells more software than the PSP, so it's clear that whatever the reason for PSP software sales being low (and it is piracy and multimedia features other than games driving sales, and lately lack of new titles), the PS3 is going to do better.

Also, you say that Bioshock and CoD4 could be done last gen but that is simply not true.  The atmosphere is absolutely needed for both and that is done far better with updated graphics.  Believe it or not, people are having a hell of a lot of fun playing PS3 games these days, too. 


Of course no one is suggesting the PS3 will ever get as bad as the PSP, but time does make a fool of us all.

Also, where exactly did I say anything about Bioshock or CoD4? Are you sure you're responding to the right person?



Jammerkid on 06 January 2008

I'm not trying to say the wii is god, I just think it's rediculous that people can't let the wii stand on equal ground with the ps3 and xbox360. Graphics aren't everything, people should stop hating on nintendo's success.



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Jammerkid on 06 January 2008
kber81 said:
Jammerkid said:

That's funny, because I've never seen an adult with a psp, only kids. On the other hand, I know a lot of adults who have a ds. Looks like those schoolgirls prefer the psp's 'hardcore' gaming.

That's the point. Similarly to you I believe (actually it's a fact) DS audiency is far more diversified than PSP's (mostly teen male gamers). It looks like schoolgirl pissed you. Unnecessarily. Fact older people owns DS doesn't mean they know how to hack it. Also adults usually have more money than kids so they don't care Dogz cost them few dollars.


Maybe I let the schoolgirl tick me off, I'm just tired of hearing it over and over. Also, just because people make games like Dogz doesn't mean ds owners are going to buy it. Look at viva pinata on the 360, it was made, but it doesn't mean every 360 owner is going to go out and buy it you know? Edit: sorry for the double post.

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