I think that blu-ray failing would have that large of an large effect on the PS3 as far as games. The PS3 was to help Blu-Ray and not the other way around.

Ni psp sales flopped because of HOMEBREW, 3rd party sales started to sway becuase of Homebrew, and they gave up on the psp.

wii has better gameplay than the ps3?

Your on crack.

I love the Wii naysayers who equate the Wii with exclusively casual audiences and children.

By that logic RE4 and RE:UC never would have sold more than 10k each.

I'm sure you make the same excuses for the PSP vs the DS too. *shakes head*

And Leo-J, for someone who just played the Wii for the first time not so long ago what position are you in to say the PS3 has better gameplay than the Wii? Has anyone else noticed that the vast majority of gamers who make these ridiculous claims about the Wii are typically those who have never played it for more than thirty minutes?

UMD is the future, I buy all my movies on UMD.

Sony should have had that feature the slim psp has, that you can connect it to TV, and watch movies on tv and on the go. UMD sales died because of that.

Go back a couple of years. Pretend company X gave you an unlimited amount of resources to design your dream console/portable. Most of us (myself included) would've created the PS3/PSP. That's good.

Nintendo went the route that none of us would've thought of. Hell, with hints about the two screens, or the "revoloutionary" controller, none of us had a clue what Nintendo had up their sleave. That's amazing.

The PSP, and the PS3 are successes. Nobody should disagree. The Wii and the DS are revoloutions in creativity. That's why they're selling. They'll keep selling because they're different. I had every intention of giving up this hobby at the end of the last generation (wich thankfully hasn't ended). Sony's PS2 kept me around. Nintendo's new systems made me stay.

Because Sony intended for it to be a small, ultra portable movie format, and in that regard it has failed. Saying that its successful just because the PSP uses it would be like saying the N64 Carts were a successful form of media.

To the OP. Of course the PS3 is going to mimic the design philosophy of the PSP, just as the Wii and DS do the same - its because its the same company. The one thing you didn't touch on was the multimedia abilities of the PSP being a foreshadowing of the PS3, and the odd features of the DS, like pictochat, foreshadowing the Wiis channels.

The one thing to note here is that the DS was an experiment by Nintendo to see if such alternative control methods could win over graphics. The fact that the DS was a success paved the way for the Wii, and if the DS had bombed we would have gotten a very different console. On the other hand the relative failings of the PSP should have made it clear to Sony what the PS3 needed to do different - namely cost and problems with developer support. However Kutaragi was still in charge then, and I guess his vision won over making some sensible concessions to the PS3s design.

I would never equate the PS3 with hardcore. I would equate it with the technologist market both literate and illiterate. I whole heartedly concur with the sentiment that the Wii is the casual machine. Based on its design, what software sells exceedingly well, and Nintendo's own marketing campaign. The machine is a casual machine, and despite what some posters think thats not an insult. So your playing on a casual machine, and proclaim yourself hardcore thats not a cardinal sin. Counterintuitive yes but not a crime against the gaming gods.

The problem as I see it with the analogy is a simple one. The 360 is the polar opposite of the Wii. The PS3 is neither as hardcore as the 360, or as casual as the Wii. That leaves it being the rebel without a cause in the current scenario. You can foam all you want, but the sales bare this out. The 360 user base is a ravenous beast when it comes to the hardcore market.

The PS3 really is a console without definition. Sony hasn't even found an applicable handle for their product. Thats why they often end up advertising in montages. While Microsoft gloats on epic gaming, and Nintendo has families of lunatics jumping around a room in a spastic frenzy. When you see PS3 adds you get the oddest impressions is it a Swiss army knife, or is it some over scripted delusion. How can we make an apt analogy when Sony themselves aren't sure what it is, or exactly where it is going.

I find it ironic that many have deemed the Wii a novelty item, but in the end it might be the PS3. Technically outside of a couple extra features it offers nothing in the way of experience that cannot be found on the 360, or a cheaper more casual experience that can be found on the Wii. Regardless you can't really apply any label to the PS3 at this time it lacks uniqueness.

Hardware wise, maybe. Software wise no. At least software sales on the PS3 haha. Geez makes me wonder what all those PSP owners are doing with that damned thing.

 umm its a blu-ray player... that has good movies.. unlike HD-Trash.. I mean HD-DVD. And the PlayStation 3 is quite unique in it's overall tech design.