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Forums - Nintendo - Now That We Know About The Wii U, What Will Be Its Fate?

 

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Yea, I think you pretty much got it. 16 20.25%
 
Hell no, Nintendo will dominate ALL! 35 44.30%
 
Let's just wait til next... 27 34.18%
 
Apple will destroy all of the big 3. 1 1.27%
 
Total:79

Since we don't know anything about the online and we didn't actually see it in action on gameplay. I say let's wait til next year, when we will find out everything including price and launch date.



                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   

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HappySqurriel said:
My expectation is that most of the criticisms that are being brought up today will probably be resolved and addressed at next year’s E3. In game graphics will surpass what was demonstrated in the tech-demos and run at full 1080p @60fps, two tablet controllers will be supported at the same time along with 4 Wiimotes, additional tablets will cost $60 to $75 and the system will sell for $300 to $350, third party support will be strong but will mostly consist of enhanced ports of HD games, Nintendo will have a decent online system which has most of the features people have become accustomed to and many new features people had never thought of before, and Nintendo’s first party line-up will be fairly strong and consist of a combination of classic Nintendo franchises and new concepts made possible by their new tablet.


If everything for the Wii U comes into fruition like you described then it would seem like the Wii U would become pretty successful.  Sounds like a pretty damn positive outlook to me.  Having the two USB ports on the front seems like they plan on incorporating the ability for at least two Wii U controllers to be played at the same time (recharge the two Wii U controllers through the 2 USB ports in the front).  Sure you could say that it could be for USB drive, etc..  However, I think they designed it for the two USB on the front to be mainly used as recharging and the two on the back for USB drive, etc...  Although I'll be using SDHC for my storage since I am pretty sure SD prices are lower than USB drives.  Anyways, if they had 4 USB on the front and 2 on the back then it would be given that multiple Wii U controllers could be used at the same time.  Four on the front would just be overkill and Nintendo probably would consider 2 enough since all your controllers usually don't die at the same time.



I personally expect WiiU to be an even better system than the Wii, not only in terms of graphical power, but in terms of software libraries, particularly in the JPRG department. That was one area that was particularly lacking on the first Wii. Sure, we had some solid titles like Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World, Arc Rise Fantasia, and experimental ones like Fragile Dreams, Little King's Story, Rune Factory Frontier and Sakura Wars (technically a port, but still pretty damn fun--I'm having a blast with it so far), but there have been others which either weren't particularly good (Dragon Quest Swords). And with the recent uncertainty of any U.S. localizations of Xenoblade or The Last Story, it seems like the situation for Wii being a JRPG system is too late to shift. Even if both titles DO get here eventually (and I still --vaguely-- hope they do), it simply won't be enough to make Wii a system for RPGs in the same way that SNES, or both PlayStations were.

WiiU should do a much better job of snatching RPGs and of bringing them stateside instead of select titles.



Depends if they make realistic Zelda HD or a fan backstabber



morenoingrato said:
Depends if they make realistic Zelda HD or a fan backstabber

The Wind Waker HD



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Fan backstabber?!



I think you got some things spot on, however I think its still way to early to judge the WiiU's hardware.

Graphics - IBM has commented on the power of the WiiU a tad or so I saw in another thread. From IBM's comment it would appear that WiiU will be significantly more powerful then the PS3. Also from what I heard from my uncle working at IBM is that IBM is not done the proccesors and stuff yet. The final tech isn't out.

Example when Nintendo unvieled GameCube they released dev kits that were not as powerful as GameCube was when it was released. Then when Nintendo Wii was announced infact at E3 2006 developers were still using modified GameCube dev kits. Now Nintendo's conference showed footage from the PS3 versions of the third party titles and didn't show a single Nintendo title. If this isn't raising your eyebrows I don't know what would.

So graphics are undetermined. Nintendo still has another year of development and the final dev kits are not in third party hands. Infact Nintendo themselves probably don't have final dev kits. Nintendo has already said they won't talk specs so they are essentially leaving us in the dark about how powerful this system will be when it releases.

 

Games - Your right alot of the third party games that will be released will be ports from the PS3. But we already see Team Ninja releasing an exclusive Ninja Gaiden. Comments from developers make it sound as if EA will be playing a much bigger role in the WiiU's launch then they did with Wii. UbiSoft who has been one of Nintendo's biggest third party supporters since GameCube was given less time in Nintendo's conference but they are bound to be supporting the WiiU with more then Ghost Recon.

Also you are judging the games over a year and a half before the console is likely to launch. Nintendo usually launches home hardware in November area. So November 2012 is over a year away. The fact that Nintendo only announced two games (SmashBros/Pikmin3) is a big indicator that the titles are being held back.

Nintendo probably could have announced 6-7first party games even more third party titles and shown them right now. However because the technology isn't finished and because their is over a year to launch Nintendo why bother announcing all those titles. Also you said that Nintendo's first party titles alone didn't sell the Wii. I beg to differ every major selling title pretty much was Nintendo. WiiFit, MarioKart, NSMBW. What third party games really drove hardware sales? JustDance and Carnival Games can you think of many others that truly shifted hardware?

Casuals - This is where I have to agree whole heartedly. I don't think casuals will be in any rush to upgrade to WiiU. At the same time those that do want to upgrade might end up going Kinect or Move which will both be cheaper and have alot of casual support. I think Nintendo really failed to target the casual market with this new console. If Nintendo had wanted to truly target the market they would have released a newer Wiimote with a camera much like Sony's Move. I don't think casuals will see the new controller as enticing.

Conclusion - I think Nintendo will halve their marketshare. Wii sells over 80+ million units I think that WiiU will sell 40+ million much like Sony and Microsoft got around this generation. This is being optamistic that Nintendo will get the whole hardcore market which I think is possible if the graphics are truly next gen and the games are their. But I think casuals will largly jump ship for Microsoft or Sony.

It will be a return of the old Nintendo, before Nintendo went all casual. That means less sales but more hardcore games. A plus for the average gamer but bad for Nintendo share holders and casuals!



-JC7

"In God We Trust - In Games We Play " - Joel Reimer

 

And hopefully that'll mean no more leaving some great games behind in Japan and bringing them stateside, which is what Wii has become infamous for doing (no, I'm not talking about XB and TLS--I'm still very vaguely holding a small glimmer of hope that we may yet see them, but for the numerous other quirky titles they produced for Japan that didn't make it over).  I think NoA got TOO much into finding the next "mainstream" hit for every year instead of being evenly balanced like they were in their earlier years.



Joelcool7 said:

Casuals - This is where I have to agree whole heartedly. I don't think casuals will be in any rush to upgrade to WiiU. At the same time those that do want to upgrade might end up going Kinect or Move which will both be cheaper and have alot of casual support. I think Nintendo really failed to target the casual market with this new console. If Nintendo had wanted to truly target the market they would have released a newer Wiimote with a camera much like Sony's Move. I don't think casuals will see the new controller as enticing.


Didn't you see the demo where they were playing golf with the Wiimote and the Wii U controllers was on the ground below where she was swinging.  They were using the Wii U controller just like the Move with their camera.  The Wiimote will still be used in combination with the new controller.



sethnintendo said:
Joelcool7 said:

Casuals - This is where I have to agree whole heartedly. I don't think casuals will be in any rush to upgrade to WiiU. At the same time those that do want to upgrade might end up going Kinect or Move which will both be cheaper and have alot of casual support. I think Nintendo really failed to target the casual market with this new console. If Nintendo had wanted to truly target the market they would have released a newer Wiimote with a camera much like Sony's Move. I don't think casuals will see the new controller as enticing.


Didn't you see the demo where they were playing golf with the Wiimote and the Wii U controllers was on the ground below where she was swinging.  They were using the Wii U controller just like the Move with their camera.  The Wiimote will still be used in combination with the new controller.

Actually, it was using the Wiimote just like it is used today.  The Wii U was only giving a visual representation of the ball and isn't aiding in the tracking.  And while I think that is a neat feature, I don't see the casuals who were attracted to the Wii with motion gaming running to put down money on a new system where the motion gaming is going to be mostly the same.  Especially if they have small children in the home.  No way I'm putting that controller on the floor while I have kids playing in the house.  I agree with Joelcool when he says that Nintendo should have released uprgraded controllers and/or a different way of traking them.  Something MS and Sony are most likely going to be doing when they release their next gen systems.