A handheld with SteamOS...so it will only play games which are

• linux-compatible AND
• controller-optimized AND
• not very hardware-hungry

Additionally, they have to sell the handheld with a profit, so it will be very expensive. It's no project of Valve, who could offer a Steam handheld under production costs. There ain't even another big player behind it like Nvidia, who can afford some exclusive deals or financial losses, if the project fails. 

Yeah, Vita is really doomed.

A handheld with SteamOS...so it will only play games which are

• linux-compatible AND
• controller-optimized AND
• not very hardware-hungry

Additionally, they have to sell the handheld with a profit, so it will be very expensive. It's no project of Valve, who could offer a Steam handheld under production costs. There ain't even another big player behind it like Nvidia, who can afford some exclusive deals or financial losses, if the project fails. 

Yeah, Vita is really doomed.

Yeah I don't see it selling well, but I would actually like to see it selling tons of hardware just to show Sony not all hope is lost when it comes to handhelds.

3DS is prove enough that the handheld market is still strong. 

3DS is prove enough that the handheld market is still strong. 

Right now Vita sells so poorly for two reasons: 

1. It's expensive. $199 is way too much expensive for the games it offers. You may say it has a lot of "horsepower," but how many games show its actual graphic power? I'd say 0. Not even KZ: M. 

2. Sony doesn't know how market it. I'm sure Vita's 2014 software is one of the best a handheld has ever received. As good as 2013 for 3DS.  And people still thinks "it haz no gamez."

Hey anyone here want to do a few rounds of Soul Sacrifice Multiplayer with me right now? I really would like to see how efficient it would be to play with people from my friendslist where we can actually communicate strategies.

I've had a few really good matches with strangers where we moved as one.
-Player 1 Use Time Magic to stop Archfiend
-Player 2 Using Group Heal Spell to counter act P1's health depletion
-Player 3 Summons Golems to lay onslaught on Archfiend, Then barrage with same element
-Player 4 Supplements Team by Assist Damage Dealing and Fending off small enemies.

In those few fights we ran like a well oiled machine......it was beautiful. I want to experience that again!

Edit: My PSN is ForeverCloud

I was thinking about playing some Soul Sacrifice lately. Maybe we'll manage to play soon :)

3DS is prove enough that the handheld market is still strong. 

Right now Vita sells so poorly for two reasons: 

1. It's expensive. $199 is way too much expensive for the games it offers. You may say it has a lot of "horsepower," but how many games show its actual graphic power? I'd say 0. Not even KZ: M. 

2. Sony doesn't know how market it. I'm sure Vita's 2014 software is one of the best a handheld has ever received. As good as 2013 for 3DS.  And people still thinks "it haz no gamez."

I'd say that the 3DS proves that the handheld market is still "there", but I wouldn't say it's strong.  Not at all.

It's taken everything Nintendo has got - nigh-on every franchise with sales potential in their roster releasing one after the other (at the expense of pretty much ignoring the WiiU); emergency price-cut; two redesigns; aggressive marketing and some strong early-in-life third party support (including some of the PSP's audience) to get the 3DS to where it is.  And where it is looks like about 50% of the sales DS managed, so around 75m or so LT.

Vita could, of course, do much better than it has been doing.  With an emergency price cut like 3DS got; stronger showing of Sony games; another redesign and better (or any) marketing, it could probably have made ~ 35m LT sales (I'm working on the basis of slightly less than half because I'm assuming that the traditionally-Sony-stuff which migrated to Nintendo wouldn't have come back). 

That's not a strong market; it's a formerly strong market (230m) which is rapidly, rapidly diminishing (110m which in actuality is going to be about 90m).

(And yes, I suppose the home console market is going to diminish too, but I imagine not to the extent that the handheld market has collapsed)

DemoniOtaku said:

 3DS proves only that there's a market for hanheld nintendo games, look at top sellers on 3DS and there's not a western game, actually 3ds have less western games than Vita, AAA much less... but Pokemon and mario franchises have one of the strongest and loyaltiest fanbase of all the industry... and the range of age for these gamers is pretty wide!

I think western portable games will die with Vita, and only indies and mobile games will remain... sadly is like that..

tpjp said:

 Vita can do even better than Killzone? Why do you say that? Imo unless Sony decides do unlock Vita´s CPU clock like the PSP I dont think it´ll be much better.