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How many vita games do you have in your library?

0-10 184 31.51%
 
11-20 109 18.66%
 
21-30 69 11.82%
 
30+ 215 36.82%
 
Total:577
BlowoverKing on 27 October 2013
small44 said:
BlowoverKing said:
I'm part of the group that believes that GOW:A, Puppeteer, and Ratchet and Clank: into the Nexus should have been Vita exclusive. It would have really helped make the Vita line-up feel more robust this year but oh well. Also add NFS: Rivals and COD: Ghosts for the holidays since I thought Most Wanted and Declassified performed well but I guess EA and Activision feel differently.

All those game woul sold worst on Vita then on PS3 and it they was exclusive to Vita it would not save Vita

Then how about nobody release any games on Vita since they would all sell better on PS3 and and they won't save the Vita. Also when did I say anything about those games saving the Vita or selling more on Vita?

I will say this though, the majority of Vita owners don't deserve AAA titles since they cry and cry for console quality games but won't even buy them when they do come out (Killzone). Hopefully people at least buy Tearaway but I don't see that happening.



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NesFe on 28 October 2013

Over my dead body 2,Freedom wars, Gravity Rush 2, Soul Scarifice Delta(Maybe even 2 ) all for 2014 for japan. Meanwhile Infamous vita "rumor" for the west and some ports/multiplatform games.  At this point in the west, Sony securing a port is big news (Borderlands 2).

Honestly, I'm not complaining since I'm probably going to buy all of Japan studios games day one, but yeah western support from first party is lacking not just in games but in advertising. Sony seems to just want to focus its efforts on japan at the moment (tons of bundles, Vita Tv, earlier mentioned games etc...).  Also, the notion "Sony is focusing on PS4" is laughable. From insider talks, Sony already has about a half dozen teams making or shifting development to ps4 development other than the already announced games.

Some news : Sega had a teaser site, it turned out to be Geki Samura and Dragons for the vita(here is the site: http://sega.jp/4936596311014649/)



M.U.G.E.N on 28 October 2013
Teflon02 said:

That's the video if your interested, not HD though


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E51qgWmfmKU

That was actually very cool. Thanks for that :D This could be a really neat thing for housholds with kids too

@Nesfe: That's the same Samurai and Dragos that came to vita right? is this like an expanded version or something?



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small44 on 28 October 2013
BlowoverKing said:
small44 said:
BlowoverKing said:
I'm part of the group that believes that GOW:A, Puppeteer, and Ratchet and Clank: into the Nexus should have been Vita exclusive. It would have really helped make the Vita line-up feel more robust this year but oh well. Also add NFS: Rivals and COD: Ghosts for the holidays since I thought Most Wanted and Declassified performed well but I guess EA and Activision feel differently.

All those game woul sold worst on Vita then on PS3 and it they was exclusive to Vita it would not save Vita

Then how about nobody release any games on Vita since they would all sell better on PS3 and and they won't save the Vita. Also when did I say anything about those games saving the Vita or selling more on Vita?

I will say this though, the majority of Vita owners don't deserve AAA titles since they cry and cry for console quality games but won't even buy them when they do come out (Killzone). Hopefully people at least buy Tearaway but I don't see that happening.


If you don't talk about sale then Vita had a really good good support from Sony : Superstardust,Uncharted,Killzone,Soul Sacrifice,LBP,Gravity Rush vita problem was never the lack of game but the lack of big IP.

Uncharted,Assasin Creed and the bad call of duty proove people want AAA games



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

outlawauron on 28 October 2013
M.U.G.E.N said:
outlawauron said:

Sony Bend finally gets to make to a console game? Why so mad.

Because no western first party studio is making exclusives for the vita? I don't know man..It's hard to understand why I'm mad..it's a real head scratcher

 

@Pezus: Yeah MS. If MS didn't mess up the XBone so much + if I had liked their first party offerings (I was really hoping they would go crazy for launch year or two in a good way :S has been a real let down so far)

@Mike: Nah not a meltdown..just genuinely dissapointed and a lil bit angry. I purchased this system hoping for better support than this. Sony has so many teams working on the ps3 and PS4...now they are taking the 2-3 teams that were working on the vita too. So yes, as a consumer I can't say I'm happy

So why does it have to fall to one studio? Surely the employees would like to work on other hardware (much like Ready at Dawn and The Order). SCEE has put out a couple of Vita titles (Killzone Mercenary and soon to be Tearaway), so that's your Western first party.



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M.U.G.E.N on 28 October 2013
outlawauron said:

So why does it have to fall to one studio? Surely the employees would like to work on other hardware (much like Ready at Dawn and The Order). SCEE has put out a couple of Vita titles (Killzone Mercenary and soon to be Tearaway), so that's your Western first party.


I already explained all of this in a post later on. This is not 'about' Sony Bend. It's about sony removing whatever little support the system had from a first party stand point in the west. And I'm talking about going forward. Tearaway and KZ Merc were revealed last year. How many such titles were revealed at Gamescom and E3 this year? That's the issue. 

It's sony's job to make the games happen. And they are employees...not the employer. And unlike R@D, these are first party studios. And Sony BEND is no ND to have such a big say in what they want either. If their studios don't wanna or can't do the games then make new studios...not our problem, it's their job to make it happen. make more smaller teams within ND, SSM etc just focused on vita development.

SCEA has been shit too. At least SCEE has done some great projects for the system so far. I will give compliments where it's due and do so if they actually announce some proper titles for next year later on. Right now, while we are approaching November, they deserve no such thing



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outlawauron on 28 October 2013
M.U.G.E.N said:
outlawauron said:

So why does it have to fall to one studio? Surely the employees would like to work on other hardware (much like Ready at Dawn and The Order). SCEE has put out a couple of Vita titles (Killzone Mercenary and soon to be Tearaway), so that's your Western first party.


I already explained all of this in a post later on. This is not 'about' Sony Bend. It's about sony removing whatever little support the system had from a first party stand point in the west. And I'm talking about going forward. Tearaway and KZ Merc were revealed last year. How many such titles were revealed at Gamescom and E3 this year? That's the issue. 

It's sony's job to make the games happen. And they are employees...not the employer. And unlike R@D, these are first party studios. And Sony BEND is no ND to have such a big say in what they want either. If their studios don't wanna or can't do the games then make new studios...not our problem, it's their job to make it happen. make more smaller teams within ND, SSM etc just focused on vita development.

SCEA has been shit too. At least SCEE has done some great projects for the system so far. I will give compliments where it's due and do so if they actually announce some proper titles for next year later on. Right now, while we are approaching November, they deserve no such thing

Lots of Sony published Vita titles were shown from Western developers. They just weren't big titles, so they kinda get pushed to the side (Murasaki Baby, Borderlands 2, BigFest, Vita Pets are all Western games published by Sony). There's a lot of PS3/4/Vita games from Western studios, and I can understand the complaint of wanting something specifically for the platform. That said, this is most financially feasible way for Sony to go, especially after seeing how poorly Mercenary did.



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small44 on 28 October 2013
M.U.G.E.N said:
Scisca said:
small44 said:
If studios make a Vita game some people say why it's not on PS3 when studios make games on Vita some people say why vita don't get support if studios make multiplatform game somes peoples say it should be Vita exclusive.

Bend make a vita game so why you are angry if they make  a game for ps4,Guerrilla studio also make Killzone Mercenary on handheld while they are a home console studio.


I don't care what "people" say. It's Sony's God damned obligation to make exclusive Vita games at this point in its lifecycle.

Guerilla Cambridge made KZ:M, it's a different studio than the main Guerilla one that's working on KZ: Shadowfall. From what we know Bend is too small to have two teams working on a PSV and PS4 simultanously, hence a PS4 game means we won't be getting anything from them on Vita for years.

I totally agree with MUGEN and am pissed at Sony and Yoshida.


Thank you! For a second there I felt like I'm in bizarro land or something

People...this is NOT about Sony Bend specifically! IF sony had shown more exclusives from their western studios for the vita this would be such a non issue and I wouldn't have cared what sony bend did. But as it stands Sony bend was the biggest dev from their first party line up to make a vita exclusive game. Now not only is it possible their next game is multiplat but it's likely it's not going to be on the vita at all. Vita has no solid exclusives announced from sony western parties at ALL. We are about to hit November now. 

Now I understand the argument that they shouldn't announce anything now with the PS4 launch coming up...that hype might overshadow the vita reveals. But they have no issue announcing games for the PS3 tho. How does that logic work? Is the PS3 in dire need of exclusives? Will games like Puppetteer, R&C etc actually make a difference on the PS3? No. They really don't. Both Puppetteer and most likely rain also will bomb. Imho they had a better chance on vita. 

Now for the argument that PS4 needs the support...what nonsense. Are we actually going to entertain the thought that the PS4 NEEDS Sony Bend? Lol come on now. PS4 has TWO ND teams, 2-3 SSM teams, MM, GG (2 games), Evolution etc etc on it already! The system is guranteed to get a ton of third party support too from the west and the east. An exclusive from a small team like Sony BEND makes no difference to the overall state of that system. But it does for the vita because vita actually needs it. 

If sony actually thought a launch of a new system is worthy of their full attention then I'm sorry I must have missed it for the vita. Vita had two abysmal E3s..and they actually managed to have an abysmal or close to abysmal showing at gamescom this year too

You can't blame third parties for lack of support. it's the hardware makers responsibility to make it happen. If sony actually thought not having any big exclusives secured such as a GTA or MH was gonna be ok for their new handheld they are dumb as hell. This logic applies the same for the wiiu and Nintendo btw. Not the third parties fault

What I want from them is not a whole lot. About two western games and two from Japan studios as exclusives go per year. Not really much. Especially considering Tearaway is being made by around 11 people. That game looks great.

Now will I praise them if they announce games? Absolutely. But I'm not going to pretend the current situation is ok..it's not. 

I blame third party  because now they only care about moneyhatting



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

M.U.G.E.N on 28 October 2013
outlawauron said:

Lots of Sony published Vita titles were shown from Western developers. They just weren't big titles, so they kinda get pushed to the side (Murasaki Baby, Borderlands 2, BigFest, Vita Pets are all Western games published by Sony). There's a lot of PS3/4/Vita games from Western studios, and I can understand the complaint of wanting something specifically for the platform. That said, this is most financially feasible way for Sony to go, especially after seeing how poorly Mercenary did.

But see like I said..none of those titles are like KZ merc or Tearaway. Not in scale of project and they aren't first party. 

I think making small teams like the Tearaway team should be more than feasible for sony when it comes to vita. No need for every game to be like KZ merc...do a LBP like art style over technically advanced visuals and boom. Smaller budget but still a satisfying result. I sincerely believe that if Puppeteer was a vita exclusive title, it would have outsold the PS3 numbers. Shuhehi has not been very smart with such projects

@Small44: I think that was the case always...especially with struggeling platforms like vita and wiiu. It sucks...it really does. But if moneyhat is what's gonna take it and that's exactly what needs to be done. 

Guys again, I know I come off as a negative nancy at times but it's not without reason. I am just as likely to praise Sony when they do right :) I did so during TGS too. SCEJA have done a great job this year vita reveal wise (god I hope Gravity Rush 2 isn't a multiplat)



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DemoniOtaku on 28 October 2013
SnakeDrake said:

idk how games got affected before the shutdown but yeah the hype was so minimal and i swear they were trying to hype up the move rather then the game. I think that the game before resistance 2 and the cuts in the mp and the removel of the 8 player co op plus the poor marketing or rather the lack of helped contributed in the poor sales. 

 

Such a shame great game and with the help of burning skies Sony finally decided to put this series to sleep :(

Yeah! Really a shame.. because it was a great game.. and I was hoping for more resistances at future, but when Imsonniac droped the Ip for others projects i knew it would be the last good Resistance.. really weird how a game serie was born and died on the same generation... :/

 

On the SONY BEND thing: well, Readyatdawn (two GOW on PSp) jumped to nextgen too... at least BEND gave us Uncharted... but really is a shame tat even first party western studios aren't working on anythign for Vita.. so this time I have to concede MUGEN the rigth to complain all he want... Is not that enraged me like to him, bacause I like more japanese games.. but I woul love some GOW and other west stuff on Vita.. but while Japan for Vita is good I have my hopes on a Gran Turismo and a patapon 4!

 

But like Outlawrun said.. is hard to mantain 3 consoles at the same time.. so Exclusive title for ita rigth now is hard... until PS3 get out of the picture... at least some indie and minor PSN projects are coming for PS4 and PSVita leaving PS3 out... is a progress for Vita.. Japan is turning like that too...



 

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