Saying that a penis that isn't circumcized is difficult to clean is as absurd as it is to say that it's difficult to clean the back of your ears.

i didn't say it is difficult to clean. i said it is harder to clean the a circumsized one and hpv can hide anywhere on your penis, with having an uncircumsized penis you have more surface area therefore more place in which hpv can be in.

Very well. My mistake, though it's still an absurd comparison. Cleaning the backs of your arms is more difficult than cleaning the front, however, they're both ridiculously easy. So much so, that pointing out the negligible diffierence is pointless, really.

lololol, yeah maybe for Americans circumcision is the answer since everyone here is so lazy they can't take an extra 5 seconds to clean themselves.

"Roughly three-quarters of U.S. adults have had at least one HPV infection, according to an editorial by Matthew R. Golden, M.D., and Judith N. Wasserheit, M.D."

-and yet >60% of males are circumsized

"It's not clear why circumcision may affect infection rates. But the study authors suggest that penile foreskin may provide a moist, favorable environment for herpes and HPV to survive and enter cells on the skin's surface. Once the foreskin is surgically removed, the risk of infection may be reduced. Health.com: Men can lose their sex drives too

They also note, however, that male circumcision is not completely effective in preventing sexually transmitted infections. Safe sex practices, including consistent condom use, are still necessary to provide the best protection."

This whole study, which several of you have now referred to simply looks at a case study (a long term study involving multiple checkups over a period of time) and looks at a group of newly circumcised individuals versus non circumcised ones and sees who was more likely to get hpv or hiv or herpes. What a fatal fatal failure of logic for those scientists. Hey, did you guys know that eating ice-cream is linked to drowning?!?! It's true! But not because ice-cream makes you drown, but because ice cream is mostly eaten in the summer when people also go swimming. MASSIVE FAIL for these scientists. "It's not clear why circumcision may affect infection rates." FAIL.

that's not a fact, it is a theory with no evidence. end of story.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132368

or one part from

"that Numerous studies have shown that male circumcision reduces the risk of contracting sexually transmitted diseases, foremost among them AIDs. Several studies done in Africa over the past decade have shown that circumcision results in a 50-60 percent reduction of HIV infection."

where is there something that is uninformed? 50 to 60%is less teffective than a condom but is much better than nothing

is this sarcastic or did scientists really say. i love ice cream and eat it summer or not if it was up to me i would eat it everyday after each meal.

I've seen that study. All it says is that uncircumcised people get AIDS more than circumcised do. There is literally no scientific evidence. Science requires testing. ie; they should take 400 people, half of them circumcised, and inject them all with AIDs, or have them all have sex with AIDs infected people and see who develops it. (Of course, that is completely against scientific moral code, so they'll never do it. Unfortunately, all they have is links and no proof)

The actual result of this study only says that people who are circumcised as adults have less sex.

it is a fact that having more surface area = more area for hpv to be in or hide in. could you disprove it. no, end story.

however that doesn't mean that uncircumsized men have to have hpv. they could wash but if on an eqaul basis each or circumsized vs uncircumsized are exactly exposed to the same conditions and each washes his dick for 30 seconds everyday, the probability will be higher that the uncircumsed will have a higher chance of having hpv than the circumsized one.

This is the problem with studies not involving actual testing. It's called a "confounding factor", and it relates to correlations. Correlations do not equal cause. So many scientists have a problem understanding this simple concept. Eating ice cream does not make one more susceptible to drowning. It just so happens that eating ice cream and swimming both receive a huge boost at the same time due to the fact that both happen most in the summer.

And yes, at one point, a scientist actually thought that eating ice cream makes you more likely to drown.