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sapphi_snake said:
MrBubbles said:


the risks involved with circumcision have a dramatic increase when the patient is older. the possibility of any complication when done as a baby are very very small. when it is done as adults its because they need it medically, which isnt too uncommon either. and there can also be emotional and mental distress for years over it.

And the difficulties of restoring foreskin are even greater, and likewise the emotional and mental distress. The fact of the matter is that circumcision is quite pointless, with the exception of some very rare medical conditions such as phimosis. Very few grown men would subject themselves to it willingly (especially if you take into consideration to loss of sensitivity), which is exactly what the pro-circumcision crowd is afraid of.

i guarantee you that the amount of people wanting to reverse the circumcision they had as a baby is smaller than the amount that will need it removed as adults.



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MrBubbles said:

i guarantee you that the amount of people wanting to reverse the circumcision they had as a baby is smaller than the amount that will need it removed as adults.

Emphasys on the word "need". The vast majority of men who remove their foreskins as adults do so because the NEED to for medical reasons. Very few adult men get circumcisions because they don't WANT a foreskin for whatever reason (too lazy to clea properly, religion etc.). The number of adult men who WANT to remove their forsekin is much smaller than the number of adult men who want to restore their foreskin.



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sapphi_snake said:
MrBubbles said:

i guarantee you that the amount of people wanting to reverse the circumcision they had as a baby is smaller than the amount that will need it removed as adults.

Emphasys on the word "need". The vast majority of men who remove their foreskins as adults do so because the NEED to for medical reasons. Very few adult men get circumcisions because they don't WANT a foreskin for whatever reason (too lazy to clea properly, religion etc.). The number of adult men who WANT to remove their forsekin is much smaller than the number of adult men who want to restore their foreskin.



you have anything to back it up. over here almost all babies are circumsized and i have neeeeeeveeeeeeeer heard anyone say they want it back.



 

 

elticker said:



you have anything to back it up. over here almost all babies are circumsized and i have neeeeeeveeeeeeeer heard anyone say they want it back.

MrBubbles didn't provide anything to back up his claim either. The fact that this movement exists, and that foreskin reperative treatment is researched, shows that there are many people unsatisfied with not havibg foreskins. Also, you can't compare the mentality of someone from a fundementalist muslim country with someone from a secular democracy, where things like human rights are actually valued. Men in your country don't even realise the abuse that's done to them, and what's worse is tha they perpetuate it under the guise of "religion".



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sapphi_snake said:
elticker said:



you have anything to back it up. over here almost all babies are circumsized and i have neeeeeeveeeeeeeer heard anyone say they want it back.

MrBubbles didn't provide anything to back up his claim either. The fact that this movement exists, and that foreskin reperative treatment is researched, shows that there are many people unsatisfied with not havibg foreskins. Also, you can't compare the mentality of someone from a fundementalist muslim country with someone from a secular democracy, where things like human rights are actually valued. Men in your country don't even realise the abuse that's done to them, and what's worse is tha they perpetuate it under the guise of "religion".

we don't even know if most of them are circumsized. for all you know you could have like over 90 to 95% with foreskin so unless you could go out film them naked everyone of them you wouldn't be able to prove that they have or dont have foreskin besides there probably are females in there which makes you point mute since females don't know how it is to have or not have foreskin.

by your logic the fact that there are communist movements and communist parties in various parts of the world means that many people are no satisfied with their political system and want communism. and please don't compare our countries, the fact that romania pretty much murdered anyone who was suspected of being part of corruption in their bloody revolution while we have civilsin trails for our president and anyone suspected of corruption with evidence provided for their accusations.

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its funny of how you accuse egypt of being fundamentalist muslim country, no human rights when you were the guys who have done a pretty bloody revolution and acted like animals after the revolution worked murdering the presidents without any fair or even close to fair trails and not him alone but alot of people with him(it was pretty much a massacare, genocide against anyone who was associated with the communist leadership), much of human rights where we egypt had a white revolution and they are currently standing fair trails.
fundamentalist muslim country my ass when 90% egyptains are crying out for a seperation between religion and the state (politics) and this will be proven in the next presidentail elections where i dare you and bet that no islamic minded candidate will have over 10%



 

 

MrBubbles said:
sapphi_snake said:
MrBubbles said:


the risks involved with circumcision have a dramatic increase when the patient is older. the possibility of any complication when done as a baby are very very small. when it is done as adults its because they need it medically, which isnt too uncommon either. and there can also be emotional and mental distress for years over it.

And the difficulties of restoring foreskin are even greater, and likewise the emotional and mental distress. The fact of the matter is that circumcision is quite pointless, with the exception of some very rare medical conditions such as phimosis. Very few grown men would subject themselves to it willingly (especially if you take into consideration to loss of sensitivity), which is exactly what the pro-circumcision crowd is afraid of.

i guarantee you that the amount of people wanting to reverse the circumcision they had as a baby is smaller than the amount that will need it removed as adults.


As long as we are talking numbers.I guarantee you that thepeople who would choose circumcision at an age they can actually choose would be significantly smaller than the people who have the procedure forced upon them as a child. That right there should be telling you something.



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also we never were a muslim fundamentalist country to begin with when the muslim brotherhood and anyone related to them were jailed so how can a country become a muslim fundamentalist country when they are being jailed and our cinemas doesn't have censorship and our internet doesn't have censorship for porn sites like every other fundamentalist muslim country, we also have alot of christains like 10% of the population.



 

 

vlad321 said:
MrBubbles said:
sapphi_snake said:
MrBubbles said:


the risks involved with circumcision have a dramatic increase when the patient is older. the possibility of any complication when done as a baby are very very small. when it is done as adults its because they need it medically, which isnt too uncommon either. and there can also be emotional and mental distress for years over it.

And the difficulties of restoring foreskin are even greater, and likewise the emotional and mental distress. The fact of the matter is that circumcision is quite pointless, with the exception of some very rare medical conditions such as phimosis. Very few grown men would subject themselves to it willingly (especially if you take into consideration to loss of sensitivity), which is exactly what the pro-circumcision crowd is afraid of.

i guarantee you that the amount of people wanting to reverse the circumcision they had as a baby is smaller than the amount that will need it removed as adults.


As long as we are talking numbers.I guarantee you that thepeople who would choose circumcision at an age they can actually choose would be significantly smaller than the people who have the procedure forced upon them as a child. That right there should be telling you something.

the fact that circumcised men would rather be circumcised and that noncircumcised men would prefer to not be circumcised only tells me that people like what they are used to.  certainly not that one is definitely more right than the other.



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MrBubbles said:
vlad321 said:
MrBubbles said:
sapphi_snake said:
MrBubbles said:


the risks involved with circumcision have a dramatic increase when the patient is older. the possibility of any complication when done as a baby are very very small. when it is done as adults its because they need it medically, which isnt too uncommon either. and there can also be emotional and mental distress for years over it.

And the difficulties of restoring foreskin are even greater, and likewise the emotional and mental distress. The fact of the matter is that circumcision is quite pointless, with the exception of some very rare medical conditions such as phimosis. Very few grown men would subject themselves to it willingly (especially if you take into consideration to loss of sensitivity), which is exactly what the pro-circumcision crowd is afraid of.

i guarantee you that the amount of people wanting to reverse the circumcision they had as a baby is smaller than the amount that will need it removed as adults.


As long as we are talking numbers.I guarantee you that thepeople who would choose circumcision at an age they can actually choose would be significantly smaller than the people who have the procedure forced upon them as a child. That right there should be telling you something.

the fact that circumcised men would rather be circumcised and that noncircumcised men would prefer to not be circumcised only tells me that people like what they are used to.  certainly not that one is definitely more right than the other.

Funny, that tells me that people would rather not get circumcised, and the ones who had it forced upon them are being super defensive about it. It's like the console war, except the focus is on the fact that a piece of the guy's dick is missing. If people go through such amazing lengths to try to justify and defend their console, just think of what they would do to defend their dick. ESPECIALLY if it wasn't their choice to begin with.

The only ones who have a valid opinion about the state of being circumcised are the ones who have been circumcised at an age they were able to choose to do so for themselves. Interestingly, they appear to be sort of a minority. As I said, that should tell you just how wrong it is for parents to circumcise their children.



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