sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:
Oh yeah. It's generally the defense that's brought up based on the surprising fact that on average two things most dictate how much you give to charity.
How conservative you are... and how religious you are.
On average an Religious Conservative is going to give way more money, donate way more time to charity, donate more blood, and everything else... then a Democratic Atheist.
The actual religion doesn't seem to matter so much as how observant you are... the more observant you are... the more you donate. This is true even when you eliminate donations to nonsecular orginizations.
On average being the important thing to mention... because there are plenty of atheists who do a lot for charity... it's just there are a lot who don't.
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Still, aren't conservative religious people more likely to be opposed to social programs, public education, public healthcare etc.?
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Your thinking American Conservatives are representatives of Conservatives around the globe. It even recently came up in the Canadian election rumours started that Prime Minister Harper would cut many health care programs. However he quickly denied it as it upset the majority of his supporters. Now whether their was any truth to the rumour I don't know. But the Conservative Party was very quick to deny it had any intentions on cutting Health Care.
Infac the Liberal Party of Canada cut way more social programs then the Conservatives have ever. I know because I was in foster care and on financial support for awhile. It wasn't the Conservatives threatening to cut the programs I was in it was the Liberals.
I'm pretty sure Conservatives in Europe are likely also different then Conservatives in the United States. To link Conservative to religion is also pretty bad as I know many non-religious Conservatives. In Canada we have three main parties the Liberals (Center) NDP (Extreme Left) and Conservatives (Middle to Right).
Fact is you can't assume just because the American Republican Party supports certain measures that all Conservatives do. Just look at Australia their Conservatives have done all kinds of shit that Canada's Conservatives wouldn't do and not even America's.
Also you do realize that many of the hospital's were created with the help of religious groups. Catholics were very instrumental in the building of many hospitals here and abroad. Also while the Catholic school system is horrible it was also the main education system until the Government stepped in at least here.
Religious people are the ones who started many of the social programs we see today not the other way around!