so you want to hear it then.......well......NGP is a PSP with better graphics and touch screen!!!

I figured out what NGP stands for:

Not Gonna Profit

yea exactly ngp and 3ds can be unique or just upgrades, who gives a shit.

hardware is nothing, software is everything.

i have only used my 3ds so far to play pokemon online, or to trade pokemon.  my ds lite can't go online through my current modem so i need the 3ds to do it.  the 3ds at moment has 0 games that interest me that are out.  so it woulnd't matter if it was 10x stronger than the most powerful computer, it still would not be getting played

well hopefully SONY offers an good games service with DD and retail. 

What i am looking for is an equal and FAIR (no f australians policy please) DD platform that because most games wont get retail release will be cheaper than the retail counter parts by about at least 10 USD, so 20 USD for the regular DD game, 30-40 for the retail release. But also have the cheaper titles ranging from free to 5 USD, being titles offered by indie developers to have there own scene on the NGP in the Cheap range. Then you have your cheap to regular range where the high quality cheap games offered by companies like EA mobile and gamesloft. 

I want to see this on an easy to use platform like Steam, that allows users to DD there retail games as well and is intergrated into the PS store. Meaning that if they buy the game they can redownload it as many times as they want from there account steam style. I want the prices not to be segergated and force high prices for Digital Distribution that doesn't cost more to deliever to countries like australia then retail (even tho we are closer than the US!). 

If SONY f up the DD then NGP will Bomb. 

lol and as i said its simple marketing if you really feel so offended by it well thats your issue... furthermore "Sony has failed every time they became arrogant" how is sony being arrogant? by marketing their device as being better?

as far as i remember nintendo said something about smartphone developers filling the industry with low quality cheap games and that causes harm because he believes that they steal attention from what he percieves to be higher quality games produced for dedicated gaming devices... and personally i find that no less offensive its technically the same thing downplaying your competitor and then saying that the product you produce has a higher value

I thought I was the only one who noticed this.

Oh well, I predicted the NGP would crash and burn the day it was announced. My stance hasn't changed on the product. Handheld gaming is a market of diminishing returns. Smartphones are crowding in on game space and unless you offer something completely different that is heavily reliant on your own first party offerings, I don't see the handheld making it for long.

I don't even see Nintendo doing that well in the handheld space this generation.

You see, this is exactly what I referred to. You've simply repeated what was reported by the media which was a suggestion that all smartphone games are lumped into one 'low quality' segment when the actual comments made were very specific in their meaning.

I watched the speech live that they took those 'quotes' from, and I saw the various things flash up on his presentation screen as he was talking about them. Iwata talked about low quality apps/games, such as the multiple fart apps or other such terrible throwaway nonsense (and if you don't think that such things are of low quality or that it's somehow wrong to say that a fart app is a terrible thing, then we are two very different people), as being the things that risked harming the industry.

He was very careful in separating Angry Birds and the like (i.e. the good examples of cheap games on the app store) as being things to be proud of, distancing them from the things harming the industry, whilst placing them alongside other high quality games on other devices (and not just handhelds either, as he talked about Angry Birds as being a "must have" game like Mario, COD and others). The media ignored that distinction so they could get hits, which then spiraled into Nintendo apparently being against the concept of smartphone gaming in general, and here you are simply perpetuating the myth, but you can't be blamed if that's what the media tells you.

But anyway, this is massively off topic so I'll leave it there...

Ahh Sony. Shamelessly rip off Nintendo's ideas from the thumbsick to the Wii mote and still talking shit. 

I'd probably also be more quiet on the PR front after getting my shit packed by a bunch of hackers. 

We can't say it's a market of diminishing returns. DS and PSP between them have made a market bigger than the entire console market was last generation, and bigger than the entire console market is this generation (though that may change as the consoles have varying amounts of life left in them). While 3DS and Vita may not achieve that level, it's way too soon to make that call. All we're seeing on the Handheld v. Smartphones front currently is the coincidental drop-offs of two devices late in their lives and the slow start of one device in its infancy vs a market that's finally starting to hit its stride and is less cyclically designed.