Sony: "No clear competitor to NGP" Nintendo 3DS an "updated DS

[milkyjoe]

o_O.Q said:

milkyjoe said:

o_O.Q said:

lol somehow when nintendo disses games for phones people seem to get deaf... the fact of the matter is that all companies try to push the idea that their product is better or more unique or original or whatever than other products out there... its called marketing

Not true, although the wild spinning of whatever anybody says never helps. For example, Iwata talks about 'content is king' in smartphone games (and in games in general), and cites Angry Birds as an example of a smartphone game done right.

Then follows hundreds of stories where it's suggested that Iwata is dismissing all smartphone games, including Angry Birds, as throwaway nonsense, and then you get anti-Nintendo types heralding Angry Birds as their champion in defeating Nintendo, thus entirely missing the point of what Iwata said in the first place...

Thus proving that it's never what you say but how people report on what you say that matters, and I imagine (or rather I hope) that in this instance with Sony, what they actually said was probably slightly more tame than the initial story suggested, but then tame doesn't get hits...

as far as i remember nintendo said something about smartphone developers filling the industry with low quality cheap games and that causes harm because he believes that they steal attention from what he percieves to be higher quality games produced for dedicated gaming devices... and personally i find that no less offensive its technically the same thing downplaying your competitor and then saying that the product you produce has a higher value

You see, this is exactly what I referred to. You've simply repeated what was reported by the media which was a suggestion that all smartphone games are lumped into one 'low quality' segment when the actual comments made were very specific in their meaning.

I watched the speech live that they took those 'quotes' from, and I saw the various things flash up on his presentation screen as he was talking about them. Iwata talked about low quality apps/games, such as the multiple fart apps or other such terrible throwaway nonsense (and if you don't think that such things are of low quality or that it's somehow wrong to say that a fart app is a terrible thing, then we are two very different people), as being the things that risked harming the industry.

He was very careful in separating Angry Birds and the like (i.e. the good examples of cheap games on the app store) as being things to be proud of, distancing them from the things harming the industry, whilst placing them alongside other high quality games on other devices (and not just handhelds either, as he talked about Angry Birds as being a "must have" game like Mario, COD and others). The media ignored that distinction so they could get hits, which then spiraled into Nintendo apparently being against the concept of smartphone gaming in general, and here you are simply perpetuating the myth, but you can't be blamed if that's what the media tells you.

But anyway, this is massively off topic so I'll leave it there...