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xinstantnoodlez said:

But microsoft IPs sell millions more than Sony IPs...soooo whats the deal?

Well, I would agree with you, but you got one thing going against you.  You're wrong.



IMU1808 said:
IamAwsome said:
Ail said:

Nintendo franchise sell better but they do not cover as many gaming genres.

Aside from the titles with Wii in their names Nintendo has failed to develop new IP this gen too, they made nice improvement on old recipes but have failed to come up with new ones...( and the issue with the Wii games is aside from the Nintendo name on the box they are not really IP you can copyright which has led to a drove of copies ( heck even Move Sport Champions and Kinect adventures are just copies).)

Sony lost many third party exclusives but did a very nice job developing successfull new IPs covering a wide range of genres ( Uncharted, LBP, Heavy Rain, ResistanceFoM to name a few).

Microsoft has a few IPs that are very successfull, the issue is that they cater mostly to the same crowd.( and CoD success has made it so that the fact that Sony not having a big FPS isn't that much an issue).

While I do agree that Nintendo needs to make some new IPs, I don't agree that Sony's IPs cover more gaming genres. The only genre that Sony has that Nintendo doesn't have is FPS, and Sports sims. Nintendo has several genres that Sony doesn't have like fighting games, RTS, and RPGs. I think that overall, Nintendo's games cover more genres then Sony's games.


SONY has many RPG IP. Most of them just haven't been touched this gen. They've created 2 new one but one was very niche (Demon's Souls) and the other just didn't have a decent first game (White Knight Chronicles). RTS, I don't know. Not my genre. Fighting games, in the past SONY had some strong partner ship with Namco which is why Tekken was only found on PS and arcades. At the begining of the gen, Namco and SONY also made a brand new studio together but that partner ship isn't what it used to be and all info on that studio just disappeared.

Well you are right, Tekken was a PlayStation exclusive, but not anymore. Also, does Sony even own the complete IP rights to Demon's Souls? White Knight Chronicles on the other hand, you are right about that too.



I think they will show off more controller core games ;)



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IamAwsome said:
IMU1808 said:
IamAwsome said:
Ail said:

Nintendo franchise sell better but they do not cover as many gaming genres.

Aside from the titles with Wii in their names Nintendo has failed to develop new IP this gen too, they made nice improvement on old recipes but have failed to come up with new ones...( and the issue with the Wii games is aside from the Nintendo name on the box they are not really IP you can copyright which has led to a drove of copies ( heck even Move Sport Champions and Kinect adventures are just copies).)

Sony lost many third party exclusives but did a very nice job developing successfull new IPs covering a wide range of genres ( Uncharted, LBP, Heavy Rain, ResistanceFoM to name a few).

Microsoft has a few IPs that are very successfull, the issue is that they cater mostly to the same crowd.( and CoD success has made it so that the fact that Sony not having a big FPS isn't that much an issue).

While I do agree that Nintendo needs to make some new IPs, I don't agree that Sony's IPs cover more gaming genres. The only genre that Sony has that Nintendo doesn't have is FPS, and Sports sims. Nintendo has several genres that Sony doesn't have like fighting games, RTS, and RPGs. I think that overall, Nintendo's games cover more genres then Sony's games.


SONY has many RPG IP. Most of them just haven't been touched this gen. They've created 2 new one but one was very niche (Demon's Souls) and the other just didn't have a decent first game (White Knight Chronicles). RTS, I don't know. Not my genre. Fighting games, in the past SONY had some strong partner ship with Namco which is why Tekken was only found on PS and arcades. At the begining of the gen, Namco and SONY also made a brand new studio together but that partner ship isn't what it used to be and all info on that studio just disappeared.

Well you are right, Tekken was a PlayStation exclusive, but not anymore. Also, does Sony even own the complete IP rights to Demon's Souls? White Knight Chronicles on the other hand, you are right about that too.


Yes. It was also developed jointly by them with From. Was also initially head of SONY Japan's idea and he was the one to approach from about reviving King's Field but it turned into a new IP. If you're wondering about Dark Souls, it's considered a different IP.



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thismeintiel said:
xinstantnoodlez said:

But microsoft IPs sell millions more than Sony IPs...soooo whats the deal?

Well, I would agree with you, but you got one thing going against you.  You're wrong.


name one sony game that outsold either gears, or halo??



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xinstantnoodlez said:
thismeintiel said:
xinstantnoodlez said:

But microsoft IPs sell millions more than Sony IPs...soooo whats the deal?

Well, I would agree with you, but you got one thing going against you.  You're wrong.


name one sony game that outsold either gears, or halo??

GT5 has now outsold gears...nothing on halo, this gen anyways.



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mchaza said:

SONY press conference: Half Life 3 announcment == WIN

Reactions:

PC fanboy - "Faggy consoles ruin another PC game."

XBOX 360 fanboy - "Valve no luv us no moar?"

PS3 fanboy - "Hurray, another great exclusive for our perfect console...What's Half Life?"



Runa216 said:

Sony has always been the console for people who like variety.  The Xbox is a very US-centric system, so Western RPG's, Shooters, and Racers there, Wii focuses on platformers and all ages games.  Playstation doesn't have a niche, which is both it's greatest weakness and it's best quality.  It's got racers, action games, adventure games, platformers, shooters, puzzle games, you name a genre is has some exclusives.  hell, I still think that Killzone is a better FPS than Halo, but that'll only result in anger.  Look at it this way: 

Action - Metal Gear Solid, God of War, Heavenly Sword
Adventure - Uncharted, inFamous
Racing - Gran Turismo, ModNation Racers, Motorstorm
Platformers - Ratchet and Clank, LittleBigPlanet
Shooters - Resistance, Killzone, MAG
Sports - MLB: The Show
RPG - Final Fantasy vsXIII, Demon's Souls, 3D Dot Game HEroes (shuddap, that game ruled!) 

So yeah, the console has a wide variety of games.  Wii has their staples:  Mario, Metroid, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Kirby, Wii titles, Epic Mickey, Smash Brothers, etc, but nothing else of value really.  No Pokemon, no great Third Party games other than No More HEroes or MadWorld (is that third party?) 

Xbox 360 is also pretty much geared towards a certain crowd.  Halo series, Gears of War series, LEft 4 Dead series (if you don't include PC), Fable, Mass Effect (1, anyway), Viva Pinata, Project Gotham, Forza....that's a whole lot of shooters, some western RPG's, Racing games, and whatever Viva Pinata is.  Most of which are also on PC (I like to not include PC becuase it makes 360 look even worse if that's factored into the argument.)  

All systems have their good games, which is why fanboys are so frustrating, it just happens to be that Nintendo and Microsoft have each cornered their respective market and showered them with advertising, so their sales are through the Roof.  sony has the best variety and quality in its exclusives, but are very passive in their marketing, so people don't buy them as much.  a shame, too, becuase I happen to think that quality should speak for itself. 

Lovely peice of writing there, couldn't have put it better myself.

Completely discredits the "SONY's IP's don't sell" argument, Playstation is all about variety, not one or two franchises.