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being gay a choice vs born that way.

It's a lifestyle choice 120 25.53%
 
Your born that way 250 53.19%
 
no opinion 36 7.66%
 
other---for anything I missed 62 13.19%
 
Total:468

why would anyone choose a life full of discrimination? :)



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sad.man.loves.vgc said:

why would anyone choose a life full of discrimination? :)


Because they're masochists?



edit:god damn you to heck akvod!



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Akvod said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:

why would anyone choose a life full of discrimination? :)


Because they're masochists?


If they loved being self-defeating why would they seek immigration to more tolerant countries ? fight for their rights?

 

EDIT: have you two actually met gay men?



Akvod said:
sapphi_snake said:
TruckOSaurus said:
sapphi_snake said:
MrBubbles said:

any real christian wouldnt have a problem with gays, even if they believe it to be a sin.   God never gave them authority to make those choices for other people.  a certain angel didnt feel people should have the right to make such decisions...and hes not in heaven now, is he?

Who are you talking about?

Satan

Lucifer's fall happened before people came to be. Also, I don't remember Satan ever trying to surpress people's free will.

Paradise Lost and the Divine Comedy should be canon. We should also get George Lucas and Steven Spielberg to update the world with more CGI.

They're not exactly religious works, are they?



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sad.man.loves.vgc said:
Akvod said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:

why would anyone choose a life full of discrimination? :)


Because they're masochists?


If they loved being self-defeating why would they seek immigration to more tolerant countries ? fight for their rights?

 

EDIT: have you two actually met gay men?

have you actually met masochists?



"I like my steaks how i like my women.  Bloody and all over my face"

"Its like sex, but with a winner!"

MrBubbles Review Threads: Bill Gates, Jak II, Kingdom Hearts II, The Strangers, Sly 2, Crackdown, Zohan, Quarantine, Klungo Sssavesss Teh World, MS@E3'08, WATCHMEN(movie), Shadow of the Colossus, The Saboteur

MrBubbles said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
Akvod said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:

why would anyone choose a life full of discrimination? :)


Because they're masochists?


If they loved being self-defeating why would they seek immigration to more tolerant countries ? fight for their rights?

 

EDIT: have you two actually met gay men?

have you actually met masochists?

that doesn't answer my questions but to answer yours. I did, so?

and I met gay men with sadistic personality disorder...



sad.man.loves.vgc said:
MrBubbles said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
Akvod said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:

why would anyone choose a life full of discrimination? :)


Because they're masochists?


If they loved being self-defeating why would they seek immigration to more tolerant countries ? fight for their rights?

 

EDIT: have you two actually met gay men?

have you actually met masochists?

that doesn't answer my questions but to answer yours. I did, so?

and I met gay men with sadistic personality disorder...


well your question didnt make much sense.  you originally asked why someone might choose to be discriminated against.  you then make assumptions of our answer and ask a question based on that.



"I like my steaks how i like my women.  Bloody and all over my face"

"Its like sex, but with a winner!"

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MrBubbles said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
MrBubbles said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
Akvod said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:

why would anyone choose a life full of discrimination? :)


Because they're masochists?


If they loved being self-defeating why would they seek immigration to more tolerant countries ? fight for their rights?

 

EDIT: have you two actually met gay men?

have you actually met masochists?

that doesn't answer my questions but to answer yours. I did, so?

and I met gay men with sadistic personality disorder...


well your question didnt make much sense.  you originally asked why someone might choose to be discriminated against.  you then make assumptions of our answer and ask a question based on that.


wat.

"Because they're masochists"

"god damn you to heck akvod!"

wat.



The Fury said:
Akvod said:

Does it matter? Is love purely dependent on sex? Is a homosexual person's love "fake"? If not, why not allow them to do what they want to? Marry?

While I might understand touchy issues like abortion (because it's contended that there's a third party/individual harmed), or even video game bans (it indirectly harms society), I really don't understand the huge fuss about homosexual marriage/civil rights.

The closest thing I hear is that the legalization of homosexual marriage would increase homosexuality and affect, against the will of the parents, children.

The fuss comes from religion where homosexuality is stated as a big no no in texts. Our society is based on said religions. That the only real reason. The term marriage comes with a lot of religious undertones associated with it which is why some feel religion and marriage are connected.

The fun is at least as far as the Old Testament goes, homosexuality could have been considered evil either because it involved certain mixing that the Jews considered unholy (similar to how they consider lobster unholy as they are a mixture of the landbound and the sea creatures), and the mixing was the specific mechanisms of sodomy, or the fact that in Jewish society at the time adult Men were presupposed to be married, and thus if they were having sex with Men that meant both parties were committing adultery, which would be socially destructive (breeding resentment and hate between the two family groups wronged by the two gay adulterers)

The foundational religious prohibitions on sexuality are, like many fundamentalist rules of religions, automatically out of context in our society.



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