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On one hand I really want Linkz to make a claim, but taking into account the earlier extravaganza I don't see what's stopping him from bullshitting, there is virtually no way to verify his innocence but the guilt may be evident in this case. However I am  not confident enough in his scumminess to push for a lynch, due to the offchance of him actually being town and maybe even a powerful one at that, I'll leave him in my sights for now and won't make an offhand decision on his play style, although I do highly dislike it, please don't do something as shit as this again, and try not to encourage others to do the same in the forseeable future.

I think I'll just watch you for the rest of the game, the likelyhood of you being scum is as high as a townie, However, I am not prepared to make a gamble such as that on day one.



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GodOfWar_3ever said:

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Thanks for giving me an in between option.



GodOfWar_3ever said:
zarx said:

Well I am usally against day one lynches but this day has been a rather weird one and considering that we already one vote down we are going to have to be proactive. Linkz is the most suspicious person so far but I am still not 100% on a vote yet so for now 

HoS Linkz

I would like to get everone elses thoughts before and any further defence linkz has deciding how to procede. 

This is exactly the puss behaviour I was talking about earlier. In the previous games I've played on VGC, everyone had this mentality and day ones usually eneded up being nothing more than 400 posts to conclude on a no lynch. I was just gonna comment on how we've finally manned up as a unit to move forward (even vetteman is pushing for a day one lynch :O )...but this post just took it all away.

I've decided I want linkz to be lynched. He is selfish, he didn't read his pm, giving us a false fabrication of a day one read which would be more benificial if you were mafia, and I don't buy his 2nd PM bullshit. Thats reason enough for me. It doesn't matter what others think you should do..you shouldn't base your vote around that. You should consider other's opinions and based on them, formulate your own decision. Stop being such a spineless puppet.


But getting other people oppnions and using that to form my own oppinion is exactly what I am doing if I was a spineless puppet I would have just bandwaggoned earlier.



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zarx said:

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Thatsthe thing I don't "want" to lynch him I think that he is currently the most suspicious person in the game ATM there are also 2 lurkers. We the town are already down one vote so no lynch is probably not the best idea at this point but a miss-lynch could be desasterous. 

Also you say you voted me because you wanted me to contribute more yet you ignore 2 lurkers, what is up with that?


While you made some posts your posts had zero content until I voted for you. You were a active lurker.



theprof00 said:
Linkzmax said:
Stefl1504 said:
TruckOSaurus said:

FoS Stefl: For not seeing the possible benefits of a confirmed townie.


Sorry that I don't think that this was a good decision, but I really think if scum wasted a kill on him it would be more valuable... of course he now can say whatever he wants, but if he claimed he should have done it at a later point, not in endgame, but certainly not day one...

I agree with this.  I'd have tried to paint myself as a big target for a night kill, and if it didn't happen I would have claimed when I thought town would only have one mislynch available.(Yes I realize that takes a lot of analysis and a bit of guesswork)

Wonk had a decent plan, but it didn't work out.(As town gambles often don't) It's not really that big of a loss as some are making it out to be.

just for the sake of saving me some time, who are these people that mentioned it? Do you have a list?

I don't know why I have to save you time, but besides Stefl going on and on about it there was Heph. As I pointed out in my next post after the one you quoted, he voted me because I outed Wonk after the plan failed.



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Linkzmax said:

Interesting isn't it. What did you make of my take on that vote in the first place?
Source post: "I don't know Wildvine, but the FOS followed by the Vote after Stefl defended me(oh yeah, that is what's weighing on my mind about him) doesn't seem like a logical progression. I wasn't given any time to answer the first questions, and there has been zero response since the vote, which basically just parroted TOS."

His FOS and vote along with TOS's vote and NotStan's FOS to give a complete picture of what happened between the two.


I thought some info useful in that post and I thought some info not so usefull. In that post you also brought more atention to my role than you should have.

I don't like the conections forming around you.

Wildvine voting yet defending you.

Notstan and zarx saying they dislike what you did but not enough to vote you.

Stefl putting the blame on ABC and focusing on zarx.



Wonktonodi said:

I thought some info useful in that post and I thought some info not so usefull. In that post you also brought more atention to my role than you should have.

I don't like the conections forming around you.

Wildvine voting yet defending you.

Notstan and zarx saying they dislike what you did but not enough to vote you.

Stefl putting the blame on ABC and focusing on zarx.

If and when I flip townie, what are you going to make of those connections?



Linkzmax said:
Wonktonodi said:

I thought some info useful in that post and I thought some info not so usefull. In that post you also brought more atention to my role than you should have.

I don't like the conections forming around you.

Wildvine voting yet defending you.

Notstan and zarx saying they dislike what you did but not enough to vote you.

Stefl putting the blame on ABC and focusing on zarx.

If and when I flip townie, what are you going to make of those connections?


I'd do that when the time comes. There are some benefits to knowing I'll be alive to do it.



zarx said:


Thatsthe thing I don't "want" to lynch him I think that he is currently the most suspicious person in the game ATM there are also 2 lurkers. We the town are already down one vote so no lynch is probably not the best idea at this point but a miss-lynch could be desasterous. 

Also you say you voted me because you wanted me to contribute more yet you ignore 2 lurkers, what is up with that?


who do you consider to be the 2 lurkers?



Wonktonodi said:

So now that you are feeling better what are your thoughts on the current situation?

Vetteman is participating on the first day, and whether or not it was my needling that prompted it I'm happy with the result. 

Linkzmax's behavior is odd for sure, but I don't read it as scummy, and since he says he knows what his role is now (even if he is, bizarrely, still not reading the original role PM), I feel no need to punish him for the "deliberate ignorance" tactic -- I explained earlier why I oppose it and he seemed to be moved by my argument.  Also, see my post he quoted. 

Wildvine's lurking is worrisome, but the "quasi-defense" doesn't bother me.  It's more like he was just pointing out a flaw in someone else's argument that was coming to the same vote he was, but for wrong reasons.  I've done the same thing plenty of times (as town), even though a case could be made for keeping silent for the sake of the lynch. 

I think we've had a lot of good discussion today.  I don't have any clear suspects, and I'm willing to give Wildvine a chance to pick up his game tomorrow.  Someone referred to "two lurkers" but I'm not sure anyone is a clear "second to last" in post amount/quality. 

Vote No Lynch.



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