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Oh, I meant to say, "who's made a big deal about it".



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zarx said:

Well that was an interesting turn of events...

Linkz still seems dodgy to me especially thes fact that his seccond PM aparently told him the nature of his power and allegiance yet he still aparently doesn't want to read his role PM for no apparent reason. 

Explain to me how reading my role PM is going to help me and/or town, given that I know I'm town and I was told the nature of my power.

Is anyone going to back off because I could come back and say I read it finally? Considering people think I'm fabricating a second PM completely, I'd say unlikely.

Maybe a claim would change opinions. I already said I'd read the role PM if I thought enough people were asking for that, but as it is the opinions voiced are along the lines of I'm dodgy for saying I'm not reading my role PM. I also think it's very much against town's interests for a day one role claim,(unless it's a voteless that tried to appear to have a vote or a hated townie that is garnering suspicions) so I would rather not do that. The last two times a townie was lynched day one it was the doctor and then the roleblocker. I don't know the GTA4 theme and there may not be an actual flavor split at all between names, but I could see giving that information if it were to help get me off the chopping block.



To be honest the only one that I am really suspicious of right now is zarx, I voted for him because I wanted that he contributes more to the game and he ended up... well earning distrust, a huge bulk of it... I was near unvoting him at some points, but I have to admit he disturbs me so much, if he wants linkz to be taken out why doesn't he vote for him already and he should stop that "I am not sure what I will do/think about/..." attitude.

The biggest problem I have is that I am not able to see a scum team - they are good at keeping themself not linked in any way, the only two persons who are linked are linkz and me... and I was the one who built that link, by not being for the linkzlynch, while I do understand why he deserves to be lynched. (I think some people still don't get why we are even considering lynching him, they just say whatever some of the more expierienced players say...)



Vetteman94 said:
Linkzmax said:

Well you're wrong about both, because I have still yet to read my role PM. I did receive a second PM, which I believe ABC sent because with all of the votes he may have thought I would roleclaim. I've received two more that's just been chatting with ABC basically, but I bet you aren't going to believe that either.

If I didnt believe you the first time why would I believe you this time.  You arent giving me any new information to confirm what you are saying is true.

As I just asked zarx, what information could I give you to confirm that it's true? Without doing something like a screenshot(which would be as bas as PM quoting) there is nothing I could say that could confirm it. So a better question from my end is, what information do you want from me that won't be confirmed until I'm mislynched, killed, or win/lose at endgame?



zarx said:
Wildvine53 said:
zarx said:

Well that was an interesting turn of events...

Linkz still seems dodgy to me especially thes fact that his seccond PM aparently told him the nature of his power and allegiance yet he still aparently doesn't want to read his role PM for no apparent reason. 


If he did get a second pm that had all of his info, why would he need to read the first?


Why say you still aren't going to read it untill the night? If he has all the info what is the point of saying he still hasn't read the first message? It just seems weired.

I don't have all the information on my role. I have enough to know I don't need to read the first unless I'm being forced to claim, which nobody has even asked for. I said quite a while ago that I'd read my PM if a claim was asked for, but otherwise what is the point?



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Stefl1504 said:

Also regarding the linkz situation, why don't we just declare its the mods fault that linkz is able to not read his role, I played games here on VGC where you had to PM the mod with your role in order to activate yourself^^ - maybe we should make this a standardrule to prevent people not even knowing their role.

You could say it is, because I asked ABC if I had to read it and he said it was fine not to. But it really is my fault for not wanting to read it in the first place. I'm just having fun(with the unknown aspects, not the reactions) and being stubborn.



Wonktonodi said:
Wildvine53 said:
zarx said:

Well that was an interesting turn of events...

Linkz still seems dodgy to me especially thes fact that his seccond PM aparently told him the nature of his power and allegiance yet he still aparently doesn't want to read his role PM for no apparent reason. 


If he did get a second pm that had all of his info, why would he need to read the first?


You are voting him yet quasi defending him not reading his role PM

Interesting isn't it. What did you make of my take on that vote in the first place?
Source post: "I don't know Wildvine, but the FOS followed by the Vote after Stefl defended me(oh yeah, that is what's weighing on my mind about him) doesn't seem like a logical progression. I wasn't given any time to answer the first questions, and there has been zero response since the vote, which basically just parroted TOS."

His FOS and vote along with TOS's vote and NotStan's FOS to give a complete picture of what happened between the two.



Stefl1504 said:

To be honest the only one that I am really suspicious of right now is zarx, I voted for him because I wanted that he contributes more to the game and he ended up... well earning distrust, a huge bulk of it... I was near unvoting him at some points, but I have to admit he disturbs me so much, if he wants linkz to be taken out why doesn't he vote for him already and he should stop that "I am not sure what I will do/think about/..." attitude.

The biggest problem I have is that I am not able to see a scum team - they are good at keeping themself not linked in any way, the only two persons who are linked are linkz and me... and I was the one who built that link, by not being for the linkzlynch, while I do understand why he deserves to be lynched. (I think some people still don't get why we are even considering lynching him, they just say whatever some of the more expierienced players say...)


Thatsthe thing I don't "want" to lynch him I think that he is currently the most suspicious person in the game ATM there are also 2 lurkers. We the town are already down one vote so no lynch is probably not the best idea at this point but a miss-lynch could be desasterous. 

Also you say you voted me because you wanted me to contribute more yet you ignore 2 lurkers, what is up with that?



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Linkzmax said:
Stefl1504 said:

Also regarding the linkz situation, why don't we just declare its the mods fault that linkz is able to not read his role, I played games here on VGC where you had to PM the mod with your role in order to activate yourself^^ - maybe we should make this a standardrule to prevent people not even knowing their role.

You could say it is, because I asked ABC if I had to read it and he said it was fine not to. But it really is my fault for not wanting to read it in the first place. I'm just having fun(with the unknown aspects, not the reactions) and being stubborn.


and your stubborn refusal to not read the PM is what makes people suspicious, or me anyway. Not enough for me to try to lynch you yet tho mind you. 



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GodOfWar_3ever said:
zarx said:

Well I am usally against day one lynches but this day has been a rather weird one and considering that we already one vote down we are going to have to be proactive. Linkz is the most suspicious person so far but I am still not 100% on a vote yet so for now 

HoS Linkz

I would like to get everone elses thoughts before and any further defence linkz has deciding how to procede. 

This is exactly the puss behaviour I was talking about earlier. In the previous games I've played on VGC, everyone had this mentality and day ones usually eneded up being nothing more than 400 posts to conclude on a no lynch. I was just gonna comment on how we've finally manned up as a unit to move forward (even vetteman is pushing for a day one lynch :O )...but this post just took it all away.

I've decided I want linkz to be lynched. He is selfish, he didn't read his pm, giving us a false fabrication of a day one read which would be more benificial if you were mafia, and I don't buy his 2nd PM bullshit. Thats reason enough for me. It doesn't matter what others think you should do..you shouldn't base your vote around that. You should consider other's opinions and based on them, formulate your own decision. Stop being such a spineless puppet.

"Out for blood again GOW? I guess you must be a townie."

I do like your attitude on lynching and others, even if it is overly aggressive. I don't like that you're tring real hard to get a townie lynched, but that's something you'll either rejoice or lament about if it actually happens and I flip.(not going to count out a janitor existing this time around)