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sorry apparently im not as experienced in how hacking works as you appair to be so excuse my misuse of the word hacking

i'll clarify what i said before :

the account of a senior xbox live security officer was breached just a few weeks ago by a 21 year old ( better? )

in regards to xbl being down intermittently - it was in some areas but in others it was down completely

edit : btw you said "The 'hacker' recovered" how was the info "recovered"?



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o_O.Q said:

edit : btw you said "The 'hacker' recovered" how was the info "recovered"?


Y'know when you forget your password to your facebook or whatever you have FB email you a recovery link? Yeah, that's basically what he did 



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how did he get the recovery link?



o_O.Q said:

how did he get the recovery link?


I don't know, I wasn't standing over his shoulders watching him. Probably just answered the security question. That's how I've gotten into a couple people's Facebooks >:3



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When my xbox rrod'd after roughly 2 years i sent it away free and it got it back 2 days later it works perfectly still.The psn got hacked 77 million accounts info was stolen,its cost dev's millions of dollars, its still down and it most likely going to happen again.

I know which is worse, a retard doesnt.



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Chrizum said:

I guess PS3 gamers don't mind their personal data being stolen and their credit cards being sold...


Yeah, seems that way.

Look, nobody cares that PSN is offline for a few days. Online services go down all the time. It's embarrassing, but you get the service back up as soon as you can, perhaps find some way to compensate your customers, and life goes on.

People care because their personal information and credit card info was stolen. A single lost CC could potentially cause thousands of dollars of damages, and lost personal information could lead to the special hell called identity theft.

RRoD is fixable. Microsoft promised to replace or repair any 360 with that fault. Sony cannot fix or replace your credit card or your identity. Not only is this worse than the RRoD, it is impossible for Sony to actually make amends.



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You forgot to mention that PS3 also had Ylod (a RROD equivalent) and both Ylod and RROD no longer exists.

So you can't compare RROD and PSN, but between RROD and PSN I would prefer to lose my online (forever) than lose my console.



axumblade said:

Lets see....a system that is unplayable or a lack of multiplayer on a system for a few weeks. I think I'm going to go with the red ring of death. PSN hasn't rendered peoples consoles unusable, just taking them back to a time where there was no online for their system. e.e


This.  I'm not a big online player anyway, so it hasn't affected me too much.  I kind of miss the days when games were about single player more.

 

Maybe it will get some of the younger generation who never knew anything outside of multiplayer FPS games / trashtalking in headsets to expand their tastes a bit.



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o_O.Q said:

lol you can't be serious

xbl was down for 2 weeks ( just like the psn outage so far ) in 2007

furthermore xbl can be hacked quite easily :

ingame ( dot ) msnbc ( dot ) msn.com/_news/2011/04/04/6408513-disgruntled-gamer-hacks-xbox-security-chiefs-account

a 21 year old hacked into the account of a senior xbl security officer just a few weeks ago... if anon had the inccentive xbl could just as easily have had this problem happen to it... its beyond laughable to me that xbl gamers really believe that live is that much more secure

Well to be fair i'm almost certain that MS doesn't run its servers off of a 1 year outdated server with known security bugs and I think they also do weekly security checks...that alone puts them leagues above what Sony had for security. But now with Sony's revamped PSN network they will be much more secure.



RRoD currently because I don't play online... if I played like call of duty it would be close. But RRoD cost me 300 dollars in a second 360 so its way worse for me.

Now if I got the YLoD plus PSN. THat would be worse. But I clean the inside of my ps3 and applied good thermal paste.

I mean, my identity can be stolen there in the  mail, at my school, everywhere.  Sony's mistake is poor. But How bad it  is, is to be determined. If nothing got stolen, like might be the case then this isn't bad. OBV, if my identity gets stolen then that's the worst.