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Ballmer: Security is MS top priority!

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selnor on 30 April 2011
Alby_da_Wolf said:
yo_john117 said:

I'm interested in when XBL went down for the 11 days...anyone got any info on that? Who, why, when, and how is what I want to know.

Xmas 2007, 4 days totally down, but more days of instability before the net was stabilized again. Anyway XBL breaches and downs were less serious than this one of PSN, the very reason why MS and its fans should never brag about these issues is that through the years far more personal data and money were stolen and other damages of many kinds done due to the countless Windows, Office and IE flaws and bugs, of which some stayed unpatched for years. MS is quite better now, but it used to be the sloppiest big company about SW quality and security, for example almost 20 years ago it copied a buggy reference MIDI driver made by Roland, Roland obviously corrected the bug, but MS kept on copying the buggy one instead of the patched one in its successive OS' for years. And it did the same also for far more dangerous bugs and holes.

Heres the thing. 

XBL is more secure. 

The down of 2007 for Xbox Live was not global ( Of which I mean there were countries that were fine as well as some people in affected areas being fine ).

It actually boiled down to the amount of people who were making new accounts and logging in over Xmas 2007. 

Nothing to do with security at all.

Windows,IE etc has nothing to do with XBL.

It is extremely true. Having a an open network creates huge issues. XBL is a closed network, of which M$ poors alt more money into than Sony. It's not only far more stable, but faster to use and download. 

As the internet is currently saying. You get what you pay for.



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yo_john117 on 30 April 2011
selnor said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
yo_john117 said:

I'm interested in when XBL went down for the 11 days...anyone got any info on that? Who, why, when, and how is what I want to know.

Xmas 2007, 4 days totally down, but more days of instability before the net was stabilized again. Anyway XBL breaches and downs were less serious than this one of PSN, the very reason why MS and its fans should never brag about these issues is that through the years far more personal data and money were stolen and other damages of many kinds done due to the countless Windows, Office and IE flaws and bugs, of which some stayed unpatched for years. MS is quite better now, but it used to be the sloppiest big company about SW quality and security, for example almost 20 years ago it copied a buggy reference MIDI driver made by Roland, Roland obviously corrected the bug, but MS kept on copying the buggy one instead of the patched one in its successive OS' for years. And it did the same also for far more dangerous bugs and holes.

Heres the thing. 

XBL is more secure. 

The down of 2007 for Xbox Live was not global ( Of which I mean there were countries that were fine as well as some people in affected areas being fine ).

It actually boiled down to the amount of people who were making new accounts and logging in over Xmas 2007. 

Nothing to do with security at all.

Windows,IE etc has nothing to do with XBL.

It is extremely true. Having a an open network creates huge issues. XBL is a closed network, of which M$ poors alt more money into than Sony. It's not only far more stable, but faster to use and download. 

As the internet is currently saying. You get what you pay for.

So Xbox live going down for 4 (or 11? I'm confused on what the number actually is) days wasn't because of hackers?

Can anyone give a link to what happened?



selnor on 30 April 2011
yo_john117 said:
selnor said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
yo_john117 said:

I'm interested in when XBL went down for the 11 days...anyone got any info on that? Who, why, when, and how is what I want to know.

Xmas 2007, 4 days totally down, but more days of instability before the net was stabilized again. Anyway XBL breaches and downs were less serious than this one of PSN, the very reason why MS and its fans should never brag about these issues is that through the years far more personal data and money were stolen and other damages of many kinds done due to the countless Windows, Office and IE flaws and bugs, of which some stayed unpatched for years. MS is quite better now, but it used to be the sloppiest big company about SW quality and security, for example almost 20 years ago it copied a buggy reference MIDI driver made by Roland, Roland obviously corrected the bug, but MS kept on copying the buggy one instead of the patched one in its successive OS' for years. And it did the same also for far more dangerous bugs and holes.

Heres the thing. 

XBL is more secure. 

The down of 2007 for Xbox Live was not global ( Of which I mean there were countries that were fine as well as some people in affected areas being fine ).

It actually boiled down to the amount of people who were making new accounts and logging in over Xmas 2007. 

Nothing to do with security at all.

Windows,IE etc has nothing to do with XBL.

It is extremely true. Having a an open network creates huge issues. XBL is a closed network, of which M$ poors alt more money into than Sony. It's not only far more stable, but faster to use and download. 

As the internet is currently saying. You get what you pay for.

So Xbox live going down for 4 (or 11? I'm confused on what the number actually is) days wasn't because of hackers?

Can anyone give a link to what happened?

Anyone who read Major Nelsons blog in 2007 would remeber. But the page no longer exists. 

It wasnt WW, and wasnt consecutive. It was intermitant. Some were affected longer than others in 1 go. 

But no. It had nothing to do with HACKERS.



yo_john117 on 30 April 2011
selnor said:
yo_john117 said:
selnor said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
yo_john117 said:

 

Heres the thing. 

XBL is more secure. 

The down of 2007 for Xbox Live was not global ( Of which I mean there were countries that were fine as well as some people in affected areas being fine ).

It actually boiled down to the amount of people who were making new accounts and logging in over Xmas 2007. 

Nothing to do with security at all.

Windows,IE etc has nothing to do with XBL.

It is extremely true. Having a an open network creates huge issues. XBL is a closed network, of which M$ poors alt more money into than Sony. It's not only far more stable, but faster to use and download. 

As the internet is currently saying. You get what you pay for.

So Xbox live going down for 4 (or 11? I'm confused on what the number actually is) days wasn't because of hackers?

Can anyone give a link to what happened?

Anyone who read Major Nelsons blog in 2007 would remeber. But the page no longer exists. 

It wasnt WW, and wasnt consecutive. It was intermitant. Some were affected longer than others in 1 go. 

But no. It had nothing to do with HACKERS.

Then why the hell was everyone saying it was hackers that made XBL go down? 0_o

Deflecting?



Lyrikalstylez on 30 April 2011

Better Be or else I have someone else to sue!!



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selnor on 30 April 2011
yo_john117 said:
selnor said:
yo_john117 said:
selnor said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
yo_john117 said:

 

Heres the thing. 

XBL is more secure. 

The down of 2007 for Xbox Live was not global ( Of which I mean there were countries that were fine as well as some people in affected areas being fine ).

It actually boiled down to the amount of people who were making new accounts and logging in over Xmas 2007. 

Nothing to do with security at all.

Windows,IE etc has nothing to do with XBL.

It is extremely true. Having a an open network creates huge issues. XBL is a closed network, of which M$ poors alt more money into than Sony. It's not only far more stable, but faster to use and download. 

As the internet is currently saying. You get what you pay for.

So Xbox live going down for 4 (or 11? I'm confused on what the number actually is) days wasn't because of hackers?

Can anyone give a link to what happened?

Anyone who read Major Nelsons blog in 2007 would remeber. But the page no longer exists. 

It wasnt WW, and wasnt consecutive. It was intermitant. Some were affected longer than others in 1 go. 

But no. It had nothing to do with HACKERS.

Then why the hell was everyone saying it was hackers that made XBL go down? 0_o

Deflecting?

What? Who the hell said that?

Yeah deflecting.

Live did nothing but choke in 2007. 

Halo 3 release brought it down for a day in 2007 prior to Xmas. To much activity. Xmas 2007 just went way past Halo 3's release and caused huge bottlenecks.



dsister on 30 April 2011
A203D said:

Xbox Live was hacked in 2007. but because the different ways data are stored within the respective infrastructures for whatever reasons the hackers who targetted PSN were able to obtain personal information. where as the Live hack was a different thing althogether.


Link to prove they were hacked in 07? I really haven't heard anything about this. O.o



Sig thanks to Saber! :D 

AussieGecko on 30 April 2011
Wagram said:

Yeah that's why Internet Explorer has so many security loop holes.


http://blogs.technet.com/b/microsoft_blog/archive/2011/04/29/weekend-reading-april-29th-edition-hulu-plus-goes-live-on-xbox-and-ie9-s-malware-protection-gets-praise-from-zdnet.aspx

 

Computer says no



 

Bet with Conegamer and Doobie_wop 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3879752

NiKKoM on 30 April 2011

I'll support selnor with a link

http://www.pcworld.com/article/141018/microsoft_offers_free_game_for_xbox_live_holiday_problems.html

nice of them to give a game because of the downtime..



 

Face the future.. Gamecenter ID: nikkom_nl (oh no he didn't!!) 

Wagram on 30 April 2011
AussieGecko said:
Wagram said:

Yeah that's why Internet Explorer has so many security loop holes.


http://blogs.technet.com/b/microsoft_blog/archive/2011/04/29/weekend-reading-april-29th-edition-hulu-plus-goes-live-on-xbox-and-ie9-s-malware-protection-gets-praise-from-zdnet.aspx

 

Computer says no

IE9 may have gotten better but it doesn't change the fact that many of the previous versions sucked ass. Also a majority of people who still use IE are not on IE9 iirc.