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PS3 sales 71% those of PS2 in the same lifespan

PS3 sales will stop at 70-80 million 59 22.43%
 
PS3 sales will stop at 80-90 million 52 19.77%
 
PS3 sales will stop at 90-100 million 52 19.77%
 
PS3 sales will stop at 100-110 million 38 14.45%
 
PS3 sales will stop at 110-120 million 34 12.93%
 
View results/None of the above 28 10.65%
 
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TT Makaveli on 26 April 2011

i hope Sony push the PS3 really to the limit and dont want to release a new console soon only cause of Nintendo...PS3 easily got a few years more of full awesomeness...



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Reasonable on 26 April 2011

Good post and interesting analysis.

I too don't think the PS3 will have quite as strong a second half as the PS2 either.

It does have an outside change I guess, if a couple of things come together for Sony:

  • the PS3 follows PS2 as the natural choice in more emerging markets late in its life
  • Blu Ray reaches the point where a cheap PS3 represents a combin BR player and console to stick in your kids bedroom for not much money (this aspect really helpled PS2 with DVD but I don't think it's going to pan out for PS3 but you never know)
  • Nintendo and MS abandon their current consoles more abruplty leaving PS3 as the more obvious choice for a late gen cheap purchase with a good library of fairly low cost games


Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Troll_Whisperer on 26 April 2011
TheSource said:

That's not really true - I ran this same comparison a couple weeks ago.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3925287

If you go by even weeks in each region you get this (for those that don't want to read the whole post) :

PS3 is 40% of the PS2 pace in Japan in 2006-2010, 58% of the PS2 pace in the USA in 2006-2010, and 70% of the PS2 pace in Europe in 2007-2010.

This is the full comparison and explainer for comparing systems easily without hw graphs:

- PS2 "year one" counts as March 2000 in Japan not March 2000 - Dec 2000 to make comparing to Wii / PS3 / X360 more even.

- I only looked at the USA, Japan, and Western Europe

- Data is for Launch Window to 5th Christmas (4th Christmas for PS3 in Europe)

Wii is almost two years ahead of PS2 in the USA, less than a year ahead in Western Europe (and it may fall behind the PS2 pace in Europe this year), and way behind in Japan.

X360 is closing in on the PS2 pace in the USA, way off the PS2 in Europe and a joke compared to PS2 in Japan.

PS3 is way off the PS2 pace in the USA and Japan but fairly close to PS2 in Western Europe.

 

W. Europe              
Wii 0 0.68 4.97 8.55 6.87 5.86  
PS2 0 0.68 5.05 6.41 7.00 6.10 8.19
PS3 0 3.29 3.86 4.41 5.24    
X360 0 0.41 1.77 1.97 3.85 3.35 4.13
  Prelaunch Year 1 Year 2 Year 3 Year 4 Year 5 Year 6

Western Europe:

                  Year 1-4        Year 1-5

Wii               21.07m          26.93m

PS3*            16.80m         (year five is 2011)

PS2               19.15m          25.24m

X360            8.00                 11.35m

* Year one for PS3 is March 25 to Dec 2007, Year One for PS2 / Wii / X360 is one to three months. PS3 is thus at 70% of the PS2 pace in years one to four on a weekly or monthly basis.

 

JP Normalized PS2 Yr 1 Yr 2 Yr 3 Yr 4 Yr 5 Yr 1-5
PS2 1.16 2.99 4.28 3.77 3.21 15.40
Wii 0.96 3.68 3.02 2.02 1.66 11.34
PS3 0.47 1.22 1.07 1.83 1.55 6.14

Year one is adjusted to be one month for all three systems.

USA Years 1-5:

  Year 1 Year 2 Year 3 Year 4 Year 5
Wii 1.08 6.29 10.16 9.59 7.07
PS2 1.10 6.17 8.39 6.31 4.68
X360 0.61 3.91 4.62 4.74 4.77
PS3 0.69 2.56 3.54 4.32 4.33

Wii USA = 34.18m

PS2 USA = 26.65m (32.16m in 2000-2005)

X360 USA = 18.65m (25.41m in 2005-2010)

PS3 USA = 15.44m

Wii is 20 months ahead of the PS2 pace in the USA, about six months ahead of PS2 in Europe, and 3m / 1-2 years behind in Japan. X360 is 10% of the PS2 pace in Japan in years 1-5, less than half in Western Europe, and 75-80% of the PS2 in the USA. PS3 is 40% of the PS2 pace in Japan, 58% of the PS2 pace in the USA, and 70% of the PS2 pace in Europe.

Well, I just calculated the sales from launch. I realise the PS2 was only available in one region for very long, as opposed to the PS3, but I thought that is a company strategy after all and would be fair enough to calculate that way. That gave me the 71% result.

As when comparing PS3 and X360, it is not the pace of sales, but the total amount of sales that count. Who launched first (or in this case where or for how long) is not what matters IMO.

Anyway, there are many ways to look at it, and I appreciate your effort. Big effort, too. Thanks.



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d21lewis on 26 April 2011

The PS3 actually sold very well.  I think the negative stigma is based solely on the fact that the competition is still slightly (or in the Wii's case much, much--) more than it has.  This gen is a strange beast.  Even the so called "loser" is experiencing great success.  I think I even saw an article stating that the PS3 sold MORE in the same amount of time than the PS2--this was a couple of years ago, though.  A price cut of even $50 would cause PS3 sales to explode.  It just comes down to when Sony feels the pros of a price cut (larger install base) will outweigh the cons (losing more money on each console sold).



Immortal on 27 April 2011
leo-j said:

PS2 dropped to $199 "mass market" and im tired of the source and people saying that mass market is being overrated, last gen nintendo was touting the mass market price point with the gamecube, and so was sony, and MICROSOFT said most of a console's sales come after they reach the $199 price point, therefore the ps2 dropped to $199 and began to see it's highest sales, and peak sales years, the ps3 has a huge amount of growth oppurtunity, but must drop price before nintendo starts to promote it's next console, or the price cut wont have as big as an affect as it could at the moment


Don't you realize that PS2 (and most other consoles, as manufacturers have stated according to you) sold the majority of its sales at under $199 because it got there earlier? Take this as an example: if the PS4 launches at $199, it'll sell 100% of its sales at or below the "magic mass market price". The PS3 is soon gonna be 5 years old - it has sold most of what it's gonna sell, regardless of its price.

Also, on topic, this is getting to be a joke. The PS3 is not gonna top 100m and it's not gonna come first. Also, as TheSource's analysis pointed out, these figures are thoroughly misleading because of the consoles' launches in different regions.

Seriously, stop fighting a long lost battle and try to support the PS4 by bashng Project Cafe instead.



 

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Immortal on 27 April 2011
pezus said:

It could top 100m, though it certainly won't catch the Wii.


It's been constantly surpassing my expectations, :O, so I suppose it could. But I think it to be extremely unlikely.



 

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BMaker11 on 27 April 2011

Not that it matters in terms of total sales in a 5 year period, but did you take into account the PS3s staggered launch?



Kasz216 on 27 April 2011
TheSource said:

That's not really true - I ran this same comparison a couple weeks ago.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3925287

If you go by even weeks in each region you get this (for those that don't want to read the whole post) :

PS3 is 40% of the PS2 pace in Japan in 2006-2010, 58% of the PS2 pace in the USA in 2006-2010, and 70% of the PS2 pace in Europe in 2007-2010.

This is the full comparison and explainer for comparing systems easily without hw graphs:

- PS2 "year one" counts as March 2000 in Japan not March 2000 - Dec 2000 to make comparing to Wii / PS3 / X360 more even.

- I only looked at the USA, Japan, and Western Europe

- Data is for Launch Window to 5th Christmas (4th Christmas for PS3 in Europe)

Wii is almost two years ahead of PS2 in the USA, less than a year ahead in Western Europe (and it may fall behind the PS2 pace in Europe this year), and way behind in Japan.

X360 is closing in on the PS2 pace in the USA, way off the PS2 in Europe and a joke compared to PS2 in Japan.

PS3 is way off the PS2 pace in the USA and Japan but fairly close to PS2 in Western Europe.

 

W. Europe              
Wii 0 0.68 4.97 8.55 6.87 5.86  
PS2 0 0.68 5.05 6.41 7.00 6.10 8.19
PS3 0 3.29 3.86 4.41 5.24    
X360 0 0.41 1.77 1.97 3.85 3.35 4.13
  Prelaunch Year 1 Year 2 Year 3 Year 4 Year 5 Year 6

Western Europe:

                  Year 1-4        Year 1-5

Wii               21.07m          26.93m

PS3*            16.80m         (year five is 2011)

PS2               19.15m          25.24m

X360            8.00                 11.35m

* Year one for PS3 is March 25 to Dec 2007, Year One for PS2 / Wii / X360 is one to three months. PS3 is thus at 70% of the PS2 pace in years one to four on a weekly or monthly basis.

 

JP Normalized PS2 Yr 1 Yr 2 Yr 3 Yr 4 Yr 5 Yr 1-5
PS2 1.16 2.99 4.28 3.77 3.21 15.40
Wii 0.96 3.68 3.02 2.02 1.66 11.34
PS3 0.47 1.22 1.07 1.83 1.55 6.14

Year one is adjusted to be one month for all three systems.

USA Years 1-5:

  Year 1 Year 2 Year 3 Year 4 Year 5
Wii 1.08 6.29 10.16 9.59 7.07
PS2 1.10 6.17 8.39 6.31 4.68
X360 0.61 3.91 4.62 4.74 4.77
PS3 0.69 2.56 3.54 4.32 4.33

Wii USA = 34.18m

PS2 USA = 26.65m (32.16m in 2000-2005)

X360 USA = 18.65m (25.41m in 2005-2010)

PS3 USA = 15.44m

Wii is 20 months ahead of the PS2 pace in the USA, about six months ahead of PS2 in Europe, and 3m / 1-2 years behind in Japan. X360 is 10% of the PS2 pace in Japan in years 1-5, less than half in Western Europe, and 75-80% of the PS2 in the USA. PS3 is 40% of the PS2 pace in Japan, 58% of the PS2 pace in the USA, and 70% of the PS2 pace in Europe.

Thanks source.

I was didn't feel like tracking down all that info.



Cross-X on 27 April 2011

I'm not good with sales trends, etc but I don't see the PS3 reaching 100 Mil ever.

It'll end up in the 80-90 Mil range.



gustave154 on 28 April 2011

i voted for 100 million... if Wii can do it in 5 years then why can't the PS3 do it in 10 years? =)



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