Even if it doesn't, who says it won't come close? Unless Nintendo drops it, the system will still be around, especially with Nintendo needing time to secure a base with the new system. That's been the case with past successful systems, whether made by Sony or Nintendo.

But being entertaining long after the surprise wears off is what makes the hit games, not surprise itself. People obviously aren't surprised by GTA, Call of Duty, Mario Kart, and especially Super Mario Bros, anymore.

Thing is Sony and MS HAVE to go longer due to how much their own systems cost to make as well as the inflated cost of devleopment due to the leap forward in tech from the last gen to this one. Nintendo probably is legitimately doing this because they found out something new they could do, perhaps having hit their limit with the Wii's motion capabilities.

Why is this needed? Just give them what they want; what they're asking for!

- More 2D Mario
- More Sports games from Nintendo with progression from WS and WSR
- Actually make use of Motion Plus for obvious things: Star Fox, a lightsabre game, swordfighting, a decent first-party FPS, Portal
- Target the DS market looking to transition to Wii: Professor Layton, more low-budget experimental RPGs, adventure (as in Monkey Island) games for the audience who stopped gaming in the 80s
- More Virtual Console games (several glaring omissions) and advertise them just as hard as first party titles so new people can fall in love with Nintendo like we did on the SNES or N64. Make it easier to impulse buy and reduce prices to compete with free (i.e. all those Pokemon emulators on phones)
- A non-sucky full Wii Pokemon adventure

If they did all of that, Wii's Christmas would be saved. Notice - no surprises, no creativity required.

Yeah, and now developers can surprise us with all their PS3/360 ports.

Not to mention surprise hasn't been the way third parties have worked on those systems. Unless you think just waving CGI around is surprising.

hopefully Cafe can deliver the goods then

Ignorance was developers biggest barrier, not the Wii's technology. So, I don't understand why Nintendo is bending over backwards to try and please them. Giving them better technology isn't going to necessarily make things any different, if developers can't make games that are worthwhile.

Yeah, it was their attitude that made them not support the system, and until that attitude changes, they cannot get the mainstream. They will just use the system as an excuse to spend even more money on games, as they think a third system will just provide more revenue for them.

Surprising people? Nothing wrong about nice surprises but what I just expect essentially from a gaming platform is to get good games. If this must be necessarily a surprise, I feel something must have gone wrong... Anyhow, Malstrom, to sum up his neverending rants, just wrote that both 3DS and Wii2 are d0med. Ipse dixit, and we perfectly know that the only guru/prophet/analyst god that makes predictions more accurate than him is Pachter, so let's start building two coffins.   

Where is my plus sign? I'd flood this thread with it if I could ;)