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NiKKoM on 25 April 2011

ow.. btw.. Happy Easter everyone!



 

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TRios_Zen on 25 April 2011

I think the Math works like this:

A is (Total 360 Sales - 360 sales prior to PS3 Launch) Hopes, Dreams
B is (Total PS3 Sales - PS3 sales in any region where the 360 is not available) Hugs, Kisses
C is Total Wii Sales/Kim Possible Avatar which is Null

Once that math is done, if A > B, then it is categorically proven that 360 fans are the best-looking, smartest console buyers, EVER.  If B > A, then it is categorically proven that the reverse is true for Sony fans...

Now, can't we all just get along?



noname2200 on 25 April 2011
TRios_Zen said:

I think the Math works like this:

A is (Total 360 Sales - 360 sales prior to PS3 Launch) Hopes, Dreams
B is (Total PS3 Sales - PS3 sales in any region where the 360 is not available) Hugs, Kisses
C is Total Wii Sales/Kim Possible Avatar which is Null

Once that math is done, if A > B, then it is categorically proven that 360 fans are the best-looking, smartest console buyers, EVER.  If B > A, then it is categorically proven that the reverse is true for Sony fans...

Now, can't we all just get along?

Wait, shouldn't we first multiply Hopes by the cosine of Forum Hype, and divide Wii Sales by the Atari Constant?



TRios_Zen on 25 April 2011

@Noname, @Trasharm,

Look at the outcomes one more time...my formula was worded with devlish accuracy...

: )



noname2200 on 25 April 2011

See, this is why I didn't go into engineering.



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fps_d0minat0r on 25 April 2011
rocketpig said:

Why does it matter? Microsoft has made more money than Sony this generation. Why don't we go by THAT number? It makes more sense than arbitrarily looking at product sales, which don't account for the clusterfucks that have set back both companies quite a bit (MS less than Sony but they both had major mistakes this generation).


higher profits are only made when a company increases the gap between the cost of producing a product/service and the price its sold at.

so i consider that another win for sony (users) since their charging us lower. infact ps3's were sold at losses and psn is free. so even though sony are not making a profit, its all good for us.

anyways sales or profits dont matter, its the games that matter and this generation theres a clear winner.



rocketpig on 25 April 2011
fps_d0minat0r said:
rocketpig said:

Why does it matter? Microsoft has made more money than Sony this generation. Why don't we go by THAT number? It makes more sense than arbitrarily looking at product sales, which don't account for the clusterfucks that have set back both companies quite a bit (MS less than Sony but they both had major mistakes this generation).


higher profits are only made when a company increases the gap between the cost of producing a product/service and the price its sold at.

so i consider that another win for sony (users) since their charging us lower. infact ps3's were sold at losses and psn is free. so even though sony are not making a profit, its all good for us.

anyways sales or profits dont matter, its the games that matter and this generation theres a clear winner.

Consumers win when companies use a loss leader model but it's not sustainable in the long run. Those losses come to roost sooner or later and we end up paying for it one way or another.

There's a clear winner in games this generation? I'd say, if anything, that's where the real fight is this generation because there ISN'T a clear winner when it comes to exclusives like there was last generation when the PS2 cleaned up on everyone.




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noname2200 on 25 April 2011
fps_d0minat0r said:


higher profits are only made when a company increases the gap between the cost of producing a product/service and the price its sold at.

so i consider that another win for sony (users) since their charging us lower. infact ps3's were sold at losses and psn is free. so even though sony are not making a profit, its all good for us.

anyways sales or profits dont matter, its the games that matter and this generation theres a clear winner.




richardhutnik on 25 April 2011
EdStation3 said:

Can't we already consider the 360 to be in last place.  Not in raw numbers, but per capita.

The PS3 has been out for 4.4 years and the 360 for 5.4 years.

Saleswise they stand at 48.2 and 52.1 respective.

PS3 has ’.5 of sales the 360 has but has only been out for .4 of the 360 life time.  That's difference.

If you add on to PS3 or subtract from 360 the extra extra life time the PS3 would have 56.8million right now.  The fact that they released early but don't have the sales to back it up would theoretically put them in last.  If two runners were running and the first got a 1/5 of the head start over the 2nd runner and he caught up and it only 3 steps behind, wouldn't you consider the 2nd runner to be the faster of the two?

I see what you did there (rolls eyes and refused to plug cute graphic here with that): this "unaligned start" business.  Why doesn't anyone want to do with with the Wii?  WHY?  Well, because the Wii actually has outsold every home console, and doesn't need to do a realigned start.  Consider that the gap was smaller before between the PS3 and 360, you can't even count trends here either.  The lead has gotten larger and it became smaller.

It is Sony's decision to jump in when they did, a year later, and price themselves at $599 coming out of the box.  At this point, positioning is irrelevant, because both companies get third-party support sufficiently.

In other news, did all those rooting for the PS3 to get second place, get the cake GLaDOS promised for the momentus occassion of Sony being in second?



richardhutnik on 25 April 2011
trasharmdsister12 said:
noname2200 said:
TRios_Zen said:

I think the Math works like this:

A is (Total 360 Sales - 360 sales prior to PS3 Launch) Hopes, Dreams
B is (Total PS3 Sales - PS3 sales in any region where the 360 is not available) Hugs, Kisses
C is Total Wii Sales/Kim Possible Avatar which is Null

Once that math is done, if A > B, then it is categorically proven that 360 fans are the best-looking, smartest console buyers, EVER.  If B > A, then it is categorically proven that the reverse is true for Sony fans...

Now, can't we all just get along?

Wait, shouldn't we first multiply Hopes by the cosine of Forum Hype, and divide Wii Sales by the Atari Constant?

I tried the last one. I got a divide by 0 error.

And I tried it, and I got a picture of Jack Tramiel's head, which arguably equals the same thing as dividing by zero.