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Kynes on 25 April 2011
EdStation3 said:
RolStoppable said:

The car of the top driver in the Formula 1 has a problem early on in the race and he has to make a long pit stop to get it fixed. After he gets back on the track he pulls off one fastest lap record after another, but until the end of the race he still doesn't manage to get back into first place. Sure, he was the fastest man in the race if you look at individual lap times, but overall he wasn't first. Now who would seriously consider him to be the winner of the race?

The point is you are not in a certain position until you are in that certain position.


You forgot the part where the other racer has to "buy 2nd place" as Microsoft has been doing.


How can you say buy 2nd place when Sony has subsidized much more their console.



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LivingMetal on 25 April 2011
RolStoppable said:
LivingMetal said:
RolStoppable said:

The car of the top driver in the Formula 1 has a problem early on in the race and he has to make a long pit stop to get it fixed. After he gets back on the track he pulls off one fastest lap record after another, but until the end of the race he still doesn't manage to get back into first place. Sure, he was the fastest man in the race if you look at individual lap times, but overall he wasn't first. Now who would seriously consider him to be the winner of the race?

The point is you are not in a certain position until you are in that certain position.

Sorry, Bub, but bad analogy.  Consoles provide content which unsually translates into sales.  Racing only provides a lot of noise, pollution, and superficial action.  But some people are into that.

I hope for your sake that you are doing this deliberately.


Maybe. May not. 



rocketpig on 25 April 2011
EdStation3 said:
RolStoppable said:

The car of the top driver in the Formula 1 has a problem early on in the race and he has to make a long pit stop to get it fixed. After he gets back on the track he pulls off one fastest lap record after another, but until the end of the race he still doesn't manage to get back into first place. Sure, he was the fastest man in the race if you look at individual lap times, but overall he wasn't first. Now who would seriously consider him to be the winner of the race?

The point is you are not in a certain position until you are in that certain position.


You forgot the part where the other racer has to "buy 2nd place" as Microsoft has been doing.

You forgot the part where Sony has lost money on the Playstation 3 while Microsoft is somewhere close to break-even on the 360.

"Buying", indeed.




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pizzahut451 on 25 April 2011
rocketpig said:

Why does it matter? Microsoft has made more money than Sony this generation. Why don't we go by THAT number? It makes more sense than arbitrarily looking at product sales, which don't account for the clusterfucks that have set back both companies quite a bit (MS less than Sony but they both had major mistakes this generation).

it matters because this is a thread about sales, not profits. But if spinning and twisting topic is gonna make you happy, than go on :)



Kynes on 25 April 2011
pizzahut451 said:
rocketpig said:

Why does it matter? Microsoft has made more money than Sony this generation. Why don't we go by THAT number? It makes more sense than arbitrarily looking at product sales, which don't account for the clusterfucks that have set back both companies quite a bit (MS less than Sony but they both had major mistakes this generation).

it matters because this is a thread about sales, not profits. But if spinning and twisting topic is gonna make you happy, than go on :)


The one who has twisted and spinned logic is the Op.



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Ajescent on 25 April 2011

It's weird when Rol gets all serious...



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scottie on 25 April 2011

1) That is not what 'per capita' means. Sales per capita would be comparing the average number of 360's owned by each 360 owner to the  average number of PS3's owned by PS3 owners. Ima guess both are approximately 1.

 

2) Responding to the actual question, I think you'll find it's not as simple as that. Aligning sales for the purpose of comparison is only useful for a very short period of time, a matter of months. Lets imagine that the PS3 had launched one year earlier. It would have been priced even higher than it was, and there would have been fewer and worse games ready for it. Or consider if MS had delayed the 360 by 1 year, certainly RROD would have been avoided, and there would have been more time to cut costs on hardware and develop games.

 

If we do an aligned launch comparison, then the PS3  gets to keep its advantage, but we are eliminating the 360's advantage. No, I'm afraid that in the twilight of the generation, using aligned launches is simply a way of biasing the figures to make it look like one's favourite console is winning.



pizzahut451 on 25 April 2011
Kynes said:
pizzahut451 said:
rocketpig said:

Why does it matter? Microsoft has made more money than Sony this generation. Why don't we go by THAT number? It makes more sense than arbitrarily looking at product sales, which don't account for the clusterfucks that have set back both companies quite a bit (MS less than Sony but they both had major mistakes this generation).

it matters because this is a thread about sales, not profits. But if spinning and twisting topic is gonna make you happy, than go on :)


The one who has twisted and spinned logic is the Op.

How exaclty? he is talking about sales, not profits, and I know many people here would rather jum off a building before seeing Sony achieveing anything better compared to competition, but we can at least stick to the topic, cant we?



d21lewis on 25 April 2011
Ajescent said:

It's weird when Rol gets all serious...


I gotta admit, it's turning me on!



Ajescent on 25 April 2011
d21lewis said:
Ajescent said:

It's weird when Rol gets all serious...


I gotta admit, it's turning me on!

I know right?!



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