Ail said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Ail said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Munkeh111 said:
superchunk said:
Munkeh111 said:
Well it's minimum power will be PS360 level, so the easy thing to do for devs will be to take those games
But I think we all know that Sony and M$ will blow Nintendo out of the water in terms of power
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I disagree.
You need to read my other Nintendo thread (see link in sig), but MSony have learned a valuable lesson about $600 consoles that sell for a loss vs $250 systems that sell for a profit and are marginal upgrades from last gen.
MSony will only show a 5-6x performance increase over this gen as compared to the 10-15x they saw against last gen. They will want to launch around $400 max with a profitable or near profitable system (no $200plus loss per item).
They won't want to wait 3 or more years to begin making a profit on the hardware. They will want to be at that level immediately or within its first year.
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Well they will almost certainly not be out until 2013, so that will make easier to beat Nintendo in a power perspective
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Not significantly. That's the point.
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Yeah power is becoming irrelevant as I doubt most publishers will invest the amount of money needed to max the new consoles.
A more relevant issue is going to be things like the amount of RAM available on those new machines.
Because if one comes out with 512Mb and the others with 1gb that is going to make multiplatform development a bigger pain...
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Not unless you take the lower system as a source. That did happen on the PS2. Remember?
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Yes but the PS2 was the ultimate beast at selling third party software. That hasn't been one of Nintendo's console strenght for a while now....
The main fear for Nintendo should be that the Wii2 gets assimilated to the Xbox360 and the PS3 in term of gen in the consumer mind instead of the successor of those two.
A lot of that is going to depend on when both Sony and Microsoft decide to release their next gen.
Right now seeing their software sales and the price that software is being sold at, they do not have to hurry ( one reason publisher start to want a new gen is when the average price of new titles start dropping heavilly due to the size of library and the used game market..., that hasn't happened yet)
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1. No, the third party games that sell a hell of a lot haven't been on Nintendo systems for a while (scraps don't count). There is a difference. They refused to put the games on the Wii in the first place, and then claimed no one was buying them (I was there. They said the games couldn't come out for a year, and didn't even wait six months to claim third party games weren't selling). Don't blame the consumers for not buying what isn't available to buy.
2. That is true. Giving into third party demands is not a good idea until third parties can stop making their games increasingly hemogeneous, and rely on cut scenes over great level design.
3. If third parties drop this system for those, then Nintendo will at least know to let them go to hell and stop trying to court people who wouldn't really support them unless they had no choice.
4. Most publishers, yes. But some some people at Ubisoft have echoed the whining of some developers that the specs aren't good enough anymore. They want more powerful systems.
