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Also, I do believe that when you become the champion, you have to defend your title...so watch out for that!

Even if you won't be fighting for some time, let us know in advance. Because I for one have other stuff going on ATM, so a day at least in advance as to when you're willing to fight would be handy. 

Oh, and Smeags, update the thread with our friend codes would ya?



 

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Let's see if i can participate in time. But it will be hard now with Portal 2 eating my gaming time. :p

 

And btw, why are Victini and Celebi banned, are they broke?



lurkerwithnosoul said:

Let's see if i can participate in time. But it will be hard now with Portal 2 eating my gaming time. :p

 

And btw, why are Victini and Celebi banned, are they broke?

All legendaries are banned. Not that they're particulary broke (as their base stats are at the same level of the pseudo-legendaries), but mostly because of abusive signature moves, like Victini's Searing Shot, Jirachi's Doom Desire and so on. 



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lestatdark said:
lurkerwithnosoul said:

Let's see if i can participate in time. But it will be hard now with Portal 2 eating my gaming time. :p

 

And btw, why are Victini and Celebi banned, are they broke?

All legendaries are banned. Not that they're particulary broke (as their base stats are at the same level of the pseudo-legendaries), but mostly because of abusive signature moves, like Victini's Searing Shot, Jirachi's Doom Desire and so on. 


No, that doesn't mean they are broken. A good example of what is broke is the first two Pokémon in your sig.

 

- Good sweeping power

- Excelent coverage

- good stats



lurkerwithnosoul said:
lestatdark said:
lurkerwithnosoul said:

Let's see if i can participate in time. But it will be hard now with Portal 2 eating my gaming time. :p

 

And btw, why are Victini and Celebi banned, are they broke?

All legendaries are banned. Not that they're particulary broke (as their base stats are at the same level of the pseudo-legendaries), but mostly because of abusive signature moves, like Victini's Searing Shot, Jirachi's Doom Desire and so on. 


No, that doesn't mean they are broken. A good example of what is broke is the first two Pokémon in your sig.

 

- Good sweeping power

- Excelent coverage

- good stats

That doesn't mean they are broke too, they are just effective.

And, unlike most legendaries with similar stats, Garchomp and Salamence have effective counters against them, given their 4x Weakness to Ice. 

One could also argue that Celebi and Victini also have good sweeping power, Victini especially, since at 100 Base Speed, there are not a lot of pokemon that can outspeed it, and Searing Shot has enough power to OHKO a lot of pokemon, even when it's not a super effective move (I used it during my entire White main story playthrough). 

So you get a great pokemon, with an unique move that can give it an huge edge over the rest. Anyway, that's the way I see it, so it's basically just my opinion. Legendaries are also mostly banned during Shoddy Battle rules and even in-game (Battle Frontier, Battle Station) they find themselves banned as well.

Just an heads-up though...I wouldn't worry too much about Garchomp and Salamence, they're not the real threat of my team. For that, there's Hydreigon and Haxorus



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lurkerwithnosoul said:


No, that doesn't mean they are broken. A good example of what is broke is the first two Pokémon in your sig.

 

- Good sweeping power

- Excelent coverage

- good stats

Well it's not my rules unfortunately. That list of banned Pokemon are Black/White's... meaning that when you pick "Flat Rules" in WiFi battles, those Pokemon are automatically banned from the get go. There's nothing I can do about them unfortunately.

I was actually fine with the "Base 100's" (every stat is set at 100) like Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Manaphy, and Shaymin. It's GameFreak that thinks otherwise.



Smeags said:
lurkerwithnosoul said:


No, that doesn't mean they are broken. A good example of what is broke is the first two Pokémon in your sig.

 

- Good sweeping power

- Excelent coverage

- good stats

Well it's not my rules unfortunately. That list of banned Pokemon are Black/White's... meaning that when you pick "Flat Rules" in WiFi battles, those Pokemon are automatically banned from the get go. There's nothing I can do about them unfortunately.

I was actually fine with the "Base 100's" (every stat is set at 100) like Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Manaphy, and Shaymin. It's GameFreak that thinks otherwise.

And there's that too, forgot about it >_<.

Though that would mean that Shaymin Sky Forme would not fit those standards, given that it's base stats shift substantially. I'd have to say that Shaymin Sky Forme and Seed Flare makes for a pure ownage combination.



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lestatdark said:

And there's that too, forgot about it >_<.

Though that would mean that Shaymin Sky Forme would not fit those standards, given that it's base stats shift substantially. I'd have to say that Shaymin Sky Forme and Seed Flare makes for a pure ownage combination.

Yeah, Sky Forme would have been banned anyways.

She pretty much owns.



Smeags said:
lestatdark said:

And there's that too, forgot about it >_<.

Though that would mean that Shaymin Sky Forme would not fit those standards, given that it's base stats shift substantially. I'd have to say that Shaymin Sky Forme and Seed Flare makes for a pure ownage combination.

Yeah, Sky Forme would have been banned anyways.

She pretty much owns.

Thankfully we also banned Darkai, or you would have destroyed us all with it  



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Huh, i'd have to clone my entire team, since i'm shooting for 53 on all of them just to fight the Elite Four, and no way would i do it all over again :/

I'd figure luck would will out in terms of the OHKO moves (to remove them from banned status). I think i've only ever seen Guillotine work once, ever, and that was back on Silver.

Double Team i'll agree is broken. They should have added a mechanism similar to Detect on it, except that it would apply across the whole battle (Detect's just affecting consecutive uses, Double Team could drop to, say, 75% chance of working after the first hit)



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