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Linkzmax said:
Wonktonodi said:

oh yeah I hated that too! super short days even less time for skill so that is a plus for this game :D

I was missing the short days actually. Everyone seemed more active then, this round it's like everyone is just waiting.

If we had a round like that again I wouldn't have been able to play so I can't miss them for that. Plus with how short day 2 was there wasn't much that went on and it just doomed the town more.



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theprof00 said:

I'M ARGUING WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE OUTING A FUCKING ROLE

(possibly)

really? so that is what this is all about? lol

heph had his crazy responce to me all on his own. With how he responed I was leaning more towards scum then town with a role anyway. Although I think I forgot to put him on my list. I'll need to fix that.



Wonktonodi said:
Linkzmax said:

It seems you claimed vanilla, so if you are town(and btw I should state that I lean scum on you too) then you should be making a big fuss so that if you do get on the right leads, scum will have to decide between shutting you up or trying to off the power.


1. One more thing to answer. So far by far my biggest suspect of the game is you for your whole voting of prof. You may have said why you voted but you didn't say why prof and you took a while to do that. Then you use the answering why you voted as a way of trying to say the case is closed.

2. Then there is the way you are going after ABC. You know he is one who doesn't post that clearly makes slip ups and easily looks bad. So if you were scum you would know he would be an easy person to focus on get him tongue tied and voted out day one.

3. There is also the fact that you admitted to not understanding my vote for vett. Considering he was the only player who didn't post a thing at the time of my vote it was pretty obvious especially for one who usually keeps potals now if you aren't keeping them this game I could understand but you not keeping them is not something that looks very good for you when you have kept them so often as town.

Next up for people I suspect would be prof for trying to call a reason for a feeling a contradiction while making several of them or very illogical statements in that same post.

Then we would have the early no lynch votters. There were at least 3 in less than 100 post of the game. stan ball and the new hat.

Then we have ABC for his unfollowable  logic(. Bizzar explanations and unanswered questions. I could see him also being a fellow scum of linkz and getting pissed that linkz is trying to take him out day one

After that we have those who have either not posted as much or not posted things that really got my attention.So considering I should put my vote where my suspcions are

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Vote: Linkzmax

I'm not sure why you quoted that without mentioning it at all, but whatever.

1. I seriously have to facepalm every time someone brings this up now. If I came out with a vote on someone and said I was doing it to get some reactions, then nobody would react to it. Dancing around explaining that got even more reactions. Not explaining why I chose prof is still getting reactions. :)

2. He posted just fine as a townie in the game I hosted. He's not even answering questions this time, and instead defelcting them into other points that are unrelated.

3. It was still early in the day. I'm not going to make an assumption about your vote, which could've easily been random. Vette may have been the only one not to post, but there were others that said just about nothing. I am keeping postals, but that's a nulltell since I kept them as scum also.



Wonktonodi said:
Linkzmax said:
Wonktonodi said:

oh yeah I hated that too! super short days even less time for skill so that is a plus for this game :D

I was missing the short days actually. Everyone seemed more active then, this round it's like everyone is just waiting.

If we had a round like that again I wouldn't have been able to play so I can't miss them for that. Plus with how short day 2 was there wasn't much that went on and it just doomed the town more.

Scum was lynched day 2 and day 3 as a result of prof's hammering causing a revenge kill... town was simply doomed from the start.



Linkzmax said:
snip http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4016581

1. The time you went after him, you were both town and I used that as scum to help get you lynched. If you are town and he is scum then your going after him has no negatives to it, even if you die somehow. Your second sentence is saying exactly the same thing I was saying.

3. I severly doubt that hat would include a jester, and even if he did it likely isn't an exclusive win condition. Meaning if the jester gets lynched you can still win too. A mafia bomb would be an absolutely horrendous role, since the whole point of Mafia is to get scum lynched.(or avoid it if scum) Those and a super saint just make it seem like you'll be paranoid to lynch anyone this entire game. Stop dwelling on the last game, you didn't fail as the cop because the round was far too imbalanced against you.

I believe you are rambling, I couldn't make any sense of the end of your previous post to prof.

1. Me being dead while a person I think of as scum is still alive is pretty negative to me.

3. @ the bolded. I'm just hoping this isn't the case again and didn't think to ask before the game started. Oh well I'll live with it and move on.

As for the end of that post.

I was pretty much saying something I've now said again in a recent post. Him saying "that's not true" made no sence whatsoever. I had fist covered one possibility of why it was wrong and then focused on the second. Since he asked why I felt something, my answer is obviously the right answer. Him saying it's wrong is being stupid and excesivly argumentative.



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Linkzmax said:
Hephaestos said:
Baalzamon said:

I might be looking at it the wrong way, but if not lynching today increases our odds of an extra night/day in our game, would that not be more information that we can consume for a potential lynch on the final day, meaning we are less likely to fuck up the last lynch, and therefore more likely to win?

if it's any consolation, I think like you on this. Heck i'm even for adding a second no lynch later in the game if we have really no clue and night action can help in that manner (though only time that happened, I was mafia so... :p)

Okay, I have the perfect plan! We no lynch today, and when there's only 1 night kill everyone can finally believe there's no SK. Then we'll no lynch for another 5 days and get things started when it's down to 4 townies vs 3 mafia.(Golden rule, but 2 is too few. 4 is possible but town would likely be quite powered then) /sarcasm

I understand you're of a different mind but I don't understand the need for this remark and the sarcasm.

FYI baal is arguing with prof (yes?) on this, the opposit view has already been pointed out, so there really is no need for this mockery.

The whole point being that if you end up losing on a night kill, then a first day misslynch is costing you a day and that last day has all the information available from previous days to make the lynch descision, so it is a much more important day than the first one. The counter agrument should be that the first day info is carried to all the other days improving them and that the last day only has a possibility of happening.

It's really a matter of prefering the assurance of a little bit of info for everyday against the possibility of an extra day with the town at max info.

I hardly see how you can make a mockery of people chosing the second option.



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Linkzmax said:
Wonktonodi said:
Linkzmax said:

It seems you claimed vanilla, so if you are town(and btw I should state that I lean scum on you too) then you should be making a big fuss so that if you do get on the right leads, scum will have to decide between shutting you up or trying to off the power.


1. One more thing to answer. So far by far my biggest suspect of the game is you for your whole voting of prof. You may have said why you voted but you didn't say why prof and you took a while to do that. Then you use the answering why you voted as a way of trying to say the case is closed.

2. Then there is the way you are going after ABC. You know he is one who doesn't post that clearly makes slip ups and easily looks bad. So if you were scum you would know he would be an easy person to focus on get him tongue tied and voted out day one.

3. There is also the fact that you admitted to not understanding my vote for vett. Considering he was the only player who didn't post a thing at the time of my vote it was pretty obvious especially for one who usually keeps potals now if you aren't keeping them this game I could understand but you not keeping them is not something that looks very good for you when you have kept them so often as town.

Next up for people I suspect would be prof for trying to call a reason for a feeling a contradiction while making several of them or very illogical statements in that same post.

Then we would have the early no lynch votters. There were at least 3 in less than 100 post of the game. stan ball and the new hat.

Then we have ABC for his unfollowable  logic(. Bizzar explanations and unanswered questions. I could see him also being a fellow scum of linkz and getting pissed that linkz is trying to take him out day one

After that we have those who have either not posted as much or not posted things that really got my attention.So considering I should put my vote where my suspcions are

Unvote

Vote: Linkzmax

0I'm not sure why you quoted that without mentioning it at all, but whatever.

1. I seriously have to facepalm every time someone brings this up now. If I came out with a vote on someone and said I was doing it to get some reactions, then nobody would react to it. Dancing around explaining that got even more reactions. Not explaining why I chose prof is still getting reactions. :)

2. He posted just fine as a townie in the game I hosted. He's not even answering questions this time, and instead defelcting them into other points that are unrelated.

3. It was still early in the day. I'm not going to make an assumption about your vote, which could've easily been random. Vette may have been the only one not to post, but there were others that said just about nothing. I am keeping postals, but that's a nulltell since I kept them as scum also.

0 I quoted it because what you suggest I do in the post is kinda what I was doing in mine.

1. You are still dancing. You said why you voted. To get reactions. We all get that. What you still have yet to say. WHY IT WAS PROFF. If you are still not saying just for reactions you are just being a horrible distraction.

2. In the game you hosted he almost got lynched as well and wasn't really posting that good. Not answering questions.. what have you not been doing since you voted prof??

3. I wasn't expecting you to assume, but I was expecting you to use your logic to come up with the most likely reasons for it. However this is a minor point but one that still doesn't still well by me. Kept but didn't share iirc.



Wonktonodi said:

1. Me being dead while a person I think of as scum is still alive is pretty negative to me.

3. @ the bolded. I'm just hoping this isn't the case again and didn't think to ask before the game started. Oh well I'll live with it and move on.

As for the end of that post.

I was pretty much saying something I've now said again in a recent post. Him saying "that's not true" made no sence whatsoever. I had fist covered one possibility of why it was wrong and then focused on the second. Since he asked why I felt something, my answer is obviously the right answer. Him saying it's wrong is being stupid and excesivly argumentative.

It's a team game. If you're town then you just have to count on whoever is left to get it right if you die. If you never voice the suspicions then they'll have nothing to try to follow.

Good, that's the spirit.

Yes, I see that now. I've also been trying to argue against the things you've mentioned existing this round, but the way you feel(sad) isn't something that can be called wrong or right.



Wonktonodi said:
theprof00 said:
 

I'M ARGUING WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE OUTING A FUCKING ROLE

(possibly)

really? so that is what this is all about? lol

heph had his crazy responce to me all on his own. With how he responed I was leaning more towards scum then town with a role anyway. Although I think I forgot to put him on my list. I'll need to fix that.

and there i thought you became tp understand why your question was a wrong move.... apparently not ^^



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Wonktonodi said:
Linkzmax said:

0I'm not sure why you quoted that without mentioning it at all, but whatever.

1. I seriously have to facepalm every time someone brings this up now. If I came out with a vote on someone and said I was doing it to get some reactions, then nobody would react to it. Dancing around explaining that got even more reactions. Not explaining why I chose prof is still getting reactions. :)

2. He posted just fine as a townie in the game I hosted. He's not even answering questions this time, and instead defelcting them into other points that are unrelated.

3. It was still early in the day. I'm not going to make an assumption about your vote, which could've easily been random. Vette may have been the only one not to post, but there were others that said just about nothing. I am keeping postals, but that's a nulltell since I kept them as scum also.

0 I quoted it because what you suggest I do in the post is kinda what I was doing in mine.

1. You are still dancing. You said why you voted. To get reactions. We all get that. What you still have yet to say. WHY IT WAS PROFF. If you are still not saying just for reactions you are just being a horrible distraction.

2. In the game you hosted he almost got lynched as well and wasn't really posting that good. Not answering questions.. what have you not been doing since you voted prof??

3. I wasn't expecting you to assume, but I was expecting you to use your logic to come up with the most likely reasons for it. However this is a minor point but one that still doesn't still well by me. Kept but didn't share iirc.

0. Well you're barking up the wrong tree here and I certainly can't take you out, but good attempt.

1. Then drop it. I'm not the one carrying it on.

2. Your recollection of that round is waaaaay off. He was never even close to being lynched. His posting wasn't great, but he did figure out some things that nobody else was mentioning. The only question I haven't answered is why I specifically voted for prof, yet I have explained why I'm not answering that. I have answered every single other question.

3. And I did come up with reasons. I first mentioned it possibly being random after trashleg had said Heph and my votes were random, when they were clearly not. Then I asked you if it was to cause discussion because you yourself said that was your intention.

Blam! Postals up to and including this post:(You're not getting my notes though)

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A Bad Clown 48
Baalzamon 25
Final-Fan 18
Hephaestos 50
leatherhat 6
Linkzmax 98
NotStan 17
Stefl1504 13
theprof00 42
trashleg 6
TruckOSaurus 18
Vetteman94 8
Wonktonodi 43