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M.U.G.E.N said:
Michael-5 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Michael-5 said:
dsage01 said:
Michael-5 said:

Killzone 3 is selling well for a PS3 exclusive. If you're asking why Killzone 3 sales aren't as strong as Halo, Call of Duty, or Gears of War it's because it doesn't have as strong of a multiplayer component. Multiplayer is fun, but there is nothing really bringing you back into the game. Resident Evil 5 sold well despite having poor multiplayer because of the strong label Resident Evil 4 laid. Also Killzone doesn't have as epic of a story arc as other Sci-Fi shooters like Halo, Gears of War, or Resident Evil. The events in Killzone 3 are much more loosly tied to the events in other Killzones compared to the other mentioned sci fi shooters. So..

1. Not as addicitve multiplayer as compeditors

2. Not the king of multiplayer games, so it's forgotten quickly since everyone else is playing Call of Duty.

3. Not so massive story arc.

4. Not being the star exclusive on the year of release.

Just to let you know Killzone has great multiplayer. Many people are on (possibly more than Reach as of today) And Gears 2 multiplayer was pretty bad it had many bugs and people complaining. For the Cod and Halo part I agree with you but come on we both know it deserves much more sales than the 1.4 million right now.

Killzone Multiplayer is unbalanced. It's not as polished, and the level of skill varies significantly. Halo separates new players from vetarans based on rank, and unlocks custom armor based on credits earned, and has daily chalenges. Call of Duty unlocks perks, weapons, and weapon mods based on $$$ which is then based off kills. Halo and CoD are polished online games, very compeditive, and I severly doubt that Killzone has anywhere nearly as many online users as either.

wait what? I'm confused here a bit so help me out. You list that halo and cod have things they can unlock as they progress etc.....kinda makes it sound as if KZ does not have such things or something....have you played KZ3 mp?

No my PS3 broke, going to play KZ3 co-op with my friend in the summer. I'm basing a lot of my arguement off KZ2, which I did not feel was up to the level of quality Halo 3, Gears 2 or Modern Warfare 1 were at.

yeah I figured as much since what you said just made no sense...KZ3 mp has all of them too...and it's a LOT of fun :D I suck at FPS MP comparatively but I can't seem to stop playing this one


I think Killzone 3 has the best MP any game this gen. I love Halo games too espcially becuase of the great MP. But this is just different. I can't get enough of brutal melee, great campaign and all the fun stuff you get to do in MP (Infilrator, medic, jetpacks, exoskeletons e.t.c)



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KZ3 is an amazing technical marvel and is selling well but really it falls short in some key areas some of which is through no fault of it's own and that's preventing it from reaching the dizzying heights of Halo or COD etc.

A- It's a shooter on PS3. If it was a shooter on the 360 it would probably sell a lot more. COD is a special case cause it's so popular regardless of 360 or PS3.

B- The Metascore did hurt it. It's not a major franchise like GT5 so it's not immune from it.

C- The characters just aren't that engaging enough. Sev can't compare to Kratos, Marcus Fenix, Master Chief or Nathan Drake. The name Sevchenko is Eastern European which will put off the English speaking world (which is a large chunk of the games buying public). Could do worse though like calling him Jamal or Mustafa Ali.

D- The story is too disjointed and all over the place. It lacks the epic feel of some of the other games. Also it lacks emotional impact. And no one can remember the main theme.

E- The controls are a big improvement on KZ2 but still has a heft which puts off the millions of shooter fans that are used to fast COD controls for MP.



The way I see it :

a ) Low metascore
b ) Over saturated market
c ) Competition

I think Killzone 3 can get to atleast 3 Million without bundling. But I think we'll be seeing heavy Killzone 3 bundles ( Like MS has done with Forza ) to expand it's audience and give competition to MS biggest exclusive, Halo. This should help Killzone get to the 4 - 5 Million mark.



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Badassbab said:

KZ3 is an amazing technical marvel and is selling well but really it falls short in some key areas some of which is through no fault of it's own and that's preventing it from reaching the dizzying heights of Halo or COD etc.

A- It's a shooter on PS3. If it was a shooter on the 360 it would probably sell a lot more. COD is a special case cause it's so popular regardless of 360 or PS3.

B- The Metascore did hurt it. It's not a major franchise like GT5 so it's not immune from it.

C- The characters just aren't that engaging enough. Sev can't compare to Kratos, Marcus Fenix, Master Chief or Nathan Drake. The name Sevchenko is Eastern European which will put off the English speaking world (which is a large chunk of the games buying public). Could do worse though like calling him Jamal or Mustafa Ali.

D- The story is too disjointed and all over the place. It lacks the epic feel of some of the other games. Also it lacks emotional impact. And no one can remember the main theme.

E- The controls are a big improvement on KZ2 but still has a heft which puts off the millions of shooter fans that are used to fast COD controls for MP.

I agree with A,B,and E. Last time I checked gears had a crap story as well but still sell's well.  I think the story is not bad and pretty understandable but then again not epic. And they put his name as Sev which can be american and he doesn't have a british or european accent.



Notorius.A.i.G said:

The way I see it :

a ) Low metascore
b ) Over saturated market
c ) Competition

I think Killzone 3 can get to atleast 3 Million without bundling. But I think we'll be seeing heavy Killzone 3 bundles ( Like MS has done with Forza ) to expand it's audience and give competition to MS biggest exclusive, Halo. This should help Killzone get to the 4 - 5 Million mark.


8.7 is actually pretty good. And Killzone 3 already has a very succesful bundle ($299.99 160 gb ps3 with Killzone 3 in the U.S.) but we should be seeing more



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Seems to be selling okay for a Killzone game to me.  How else should it be selling?



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Reasonable said:

Seems to be selling okay for a Killzone game to me.  How else should it be selling?


Like a Halo game.



ImJustBayuum said:
Reasonable said:

Seems to be selling okay for a Killzone game to me.  How else should it be selling?


Like a Halo game.


Exactly my point!



CGI-Quality said:
dsage01 said:
ImJustBayuum said:
Reasonable said:

Seems to be selling okay for a Killzone game to me.  How else should it be selling?


Like a Halo game.


Exactly my point!

A game in a franchise that deosn't sell like Halo should sell like a Halo game?

*does not compute *

It doesnt. But

-People know that Halo is one of the top selling FPS games.
-But generally don't know how much a game in the killzone franchise is usually sold.

Because of this uncertainty/lack of knowledge, the former is used as the standard of comparison.



People expect Killzone to sell like Halo.

ROFL LOL LOL LOL LOL.

It's like Forza selling like GT.

And Killzone 3 is selling better than Killzone 2 (legs)... Killzone 3 has the best Multiplayer this generation (until now).