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Carl2291 said:
miz1q2w3e said:

People, I think he's being serious...

Why wouldn't I be serious?


Because we are talking about sustaining innovations vs disruptive innovations.

Going HD is a sustaining innovation - basically everyone expects it. It is natural evolution. It's like upping the max GB of hard drives or making cars faster. The SNES showed more pixels than the NES, on the PSX / N64 you could see games in 480p for the first time and the Xbox 1 had HD output. It's normal.

The Wiimote was a disruptive innovation. It was completely unexpected and came out of left field. It was also a radically different way of playing videogames. Move and the Wiimote Plus were sustaining innovations - they improved upon an already existing concept. Eye Toy was not really disruptive but it was innovative as it did something new. It was not a sustaining innovation. Of course the Move is also innovative but it is a sustaining innovation since there was a motion controller on the market before it.

But dual control sticks, Eye Toy, Sing Star, the touchpanel on the back of the NGP... Sony has done mutliple things that were more than just sustaining innovations. And if the Wii 2 features a hybrid of Kinect and Wiimote / Move it will only be a sustaining innovation, too. I would even consider the 3D of the 3DS to be of sustaining nature. So it's not like only Nintendo innovates. Sony's done a bunch of innovative things, too. Nintendo just happens to make their innovations a central part of their products and design the whole console around them.



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How can anyone seriously say that Sony does not innovate? 



red_dragon said:

IGN is also reprting it and added that Nintendo is going to send a press release announcing the console and the full unveil will be at E3 just like what they did for the 3DS.

Kotaku and IGN are saying it's going to be better than the PS3 and 360 graphically.


Also the official E3 twitter also left a teaser.

http://twitter.com/#!/e3expo/status/58610927314018304


Well if it isn't graphically better than those consoles then I wouldn't buy it as people would hail it as "old technology" which technically is (what 2005 or 2006 tech?).



UncleScrooge said:
Carl2291 said:
miz1q2w3e said:

People, I think he's being serious...

Why wouldn't I be serious?


Because we are talking about sustaining innovations vs disruptive innovations.

Going HD is a sustaining innovation - basically everyone expects it. It is natural evolution. It's like upping the max GB of hard drives or making cars faster. The SNES showed more pixels than the NES, on the PSX / N64 you could see games in 480p for the first time and the Xbox 1 had HD output. It's normal.

The Wiimote was a disruptive innovation. It was completely unexpected and came out of left field. It was also a radically different way of playing videogames. Move and the Wiimote Plus were sustaining innovations - they improved upon an already existing concept. Eye Toy was not really disruptive but it was innovative as it did something new. It was not a sustaining innovation. Of course the Move is also innovative but it is a sustaining innovation since there was a motion controller on the market before it.

But dual control sticks, Eye Toy, Sing Star, the touchpanel on the back of the NGP... Sony has done mutliple things that were more than just sustaining innovations. And if the Wii 2 features a hybrid of Kinect and Wiimote / Move it will only be a sustaining innovation, too. I would even consider the 3D of the 3DS to be of sustaining nature. So it's not like only Nintendo innovates. Sony's done a bunch of innovative things, too. Nintendo just happens to make their innovations a central part of their products and design the whole console around them.

I guess we can´t expect Nintendo, or any other company, to provide disruptive innovation every time a new product is launched.



Carl2291 said:
miz1q2w3e said:

People, I think he's being serious...

Why wouldn't I be serious?




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Can't wait to see the specs and stuff if this is true.



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Mr Khan said:

Given inflation and exchange rates, $250 is easily what we paid for the DS as far as the Yen is concerned

The DS launched at  ¥16,800. That's significantly less than the 3DS' 25,000 even if you take into account inflation. Inflation doesn't go up almost 50% in 6-7 years.  The 3DS is a pretty expensive piece of tech and I don't think Nintendo is overcharging for it. But I think it would have been wiser for Nintendo to have delayed the release until when the 3D tech got a lot cheaper. It's never a good time to launch a ¥25,000 gaming handheld, let alone during a global economic recession. Nintendo is forgetting what brought them to the dance (focusing more on innovation and affordable pricing than graphical prowess). The 3DS is going to outsell NGP easily but I don't see it recreating the success of the DS. If Nintendo tries to pull the same stunts with Wii 2/Wii HD (launching it earlier than it should be, building an expensive powerhouse with a high price tag), it won't have the success of the Wii. Nintendo doesn't know their audience. Soccer moms aren't going to be forking down $250 US on a handheld for their kid unless that kid is really spoiled. And I'd imagine that Wii 2/Wii HD would piss off a lot of people that bought a $200 Wii recently as well. If the Wii was like $150 for awhile, then yeah you can see it coming.



I hope Wii makes it to 100 M this year then



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Ninten78 said:

I hope Wii makes it to 100 M this year then

I reckon it will, something REALY bad would have to happen otherwise...



 

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