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M.U.G.E.N on 11 April 2011
kowenicki said:
ethomaz said:
arcane_chaos said:

after reading the settlement:

Sony: Either follow these rules or WE WILL BURY YOU!!!!

Geohot: O-O-Okay....*checks pants*

/thread


why didnt they just bury him?  He had already committed the "crime"...  

If their case was watertight there is no way they would have compromised...  why would they?  for what?

you can ask the same Q other wway too..no one put a gun on hotz's head and ask him to settle. Sony wanted him to back off from the begining and that's exactly what they got now. If he messes with anything sony again he will be fined from 10k to 200k or something. Why should sony bother any furthure? The so called freedom fighter now and forever will be ridden of from sony products, sending him to jail could have lead to bad publicity. The message from this outcome is clear, hotz backed down ONLY cuz he knew he can't win this one, if you think otherwise you're being silly, hotz would have not stopped till the court ruled against sony. not like he wouldn't have money since people seem to be willing to pay for the court (and who knows maybe even his vacation :) I don't trust his word)



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goforgold on 11 April 2011
dsister said:
Ajescent said:

hahahahahahaha
really?

 


He developed custom firmware, and he didn't pirate any games. :) 

Now tell me what you would describe as a developer, and a 'legit' gamer 

your f**king joking right?



LivingMetal on 11 April 2011
kowenicki said:
ethomaz said:
arcane_chaos said:

after reading the settlement:

Sony: Either follow these rules or WE WILL BURY YOU!!!!

Geohot: O-O-Okay....*checks pants*

/thread


why didnt they just bury him?  He had already committed the "crime"...  

If their case was watertight there is no way they would have compromised...  why would they?  for what?


Maybe Sony was afraid of AAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL those donations Geohot was going to get if this case dragged on.  It would of been money well spent, wouldn't you agree?



dsister on 11 April 2011
M.U.G.E.N said:

again sony won plain and simple, Geohotz knew he had no chance of winning so he caved in and settled, not a complicated end result, it's obvious. and what less effort? He collected money from fans, he acted like an idiot on the net and tv, he did interview after interview..what did sony do? they sued him, and pushed him into a corner where he had to shut his trap and settle.

and LOL hey I Love ps3/psp, I only own ps3/psp/ds now but I do play on all three consoles. I do support other consoles too, for example I do say it's too early to call 3ds doomed etc. You might wanna wait a bit till you jump to conclusions. cuz if I jump to conclusions about you from what I have seen you post, that doesn't paint a pretty picture either. To be frank I couldn't care less what you think of me or what these paranoid bs about 'false' information is...but seriously, hotz lost, he is gonna do exactly what sony wanted him to do from the begining but this time only like a lil bitch with a leash around his neck. Please do all a favor and get over it already.

Like Kowenicki said if it was so clear cut why didn't Sony just bury him. Sony was still putting their case together... The only thing that would of happened if they continued would be that Geo would of drowned in debt. I guess that's one form of winning... one where justice is kind of trampled, but whatever. 

And yes, with the less effort. Wow, he made a blog post for donations, and posted alink to his paypal... 

And I meant about the whole geohot thing. I've only seen you begging for blood the entire time.



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goforgold on 11 April 2011
irstupid said:

i hate when peopel argue saying "oh he is fighting for our rights" or "hell no he isn't fighting our rights, he's a douche"

you are both fricken correct.  Geohotz coudln't care less about you and I, but what he was being sued for the reprecussions do affect consumer rights.  So it don't matter if he is mother teresa or the biggest prick in the world.  if sony were to have tacken this to court and won in what was originally brought up.  it would have been a sad day for consumers.

no it wouldn't lolz remember Sony made the ps3 this douch aint make shit



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LivingMetal on 11 April 2011
kowenicki said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
kowenicki said:
ethomaz said:
arcane_chaos said:

after reading the settlement:

Sony: Either follow these rules or WE WILL BURY YOU!!!!

Geohot: O-O-Okay....*checks pants*

/thread


why didnt they just bury him?  He had already committed the "crime"...  

If their case was watertight there is no way they would have compromised...  why would they?  for what?

you can ask the same Q other wway too..no one put a gun on hotz's head and ask him to settle. Sony wanted him to back off from the begining and that's exactly what they got now. If he messes with anything sony again he will be fined from 10k to 200k or something. Why should sony bother any furthure? The so called freedom fighter now and forever will be ridden of from sony products, sending him to jail could have lead to bad publicity. The message from this outcome is clear, hotz backed down ONLY cuz he knew he can't win this one, if you think otherwise you're being silly, hotz would have not stopped till the court ruled against sony. not like he wouldn't have money since people seem to be willing to pay for the court (and who knows maybe even his vacation :) I don't trust his word)

Forgive me but thats bollocks...  Hotz cant back down without Sony allowing him to, HE was being sued.

Why did Sony ALLOW Hotz to back down.. why didnt they say fuck you - see you in court.  Get a nice precendent for future issues and have done with it?

You dont seem to understand the legal process too well.

 

So are you saying that you cannot fight back to prove your innocence when being sued?  And can you not counter sue when found innocent?  So why couldn't Geohot do so?



dsister on 11 April 2011
goforgold said:

your f**king joking right?

*Reports for spamming* 

Instead of making useless posts, why not put together a list of reasons why I am wrong 



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LivingMetal on 11 April 2011
kowenicki said:
LivingMetal said:
kowenicki said:
ethomaz said:
arcane_chaos said:

after reading the settlement:

Sony: Either follow these rules or WE WILL BURY YOU!!!!

Geohot: O-O-Okay....*checks pants*

/thread


why didnt they just bury him?  He had already committed the "crime"...  

If their case was watertight there is no way they would have compromised...  why would they?  for what?


Maybe Sony was afraid of AAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL those donations Geohot was going to get if this case dragged on.  It would of been money well spent, wouldn't you agree?

Dunno.  Why dont you stop being smart (again) and read my posts above and come up with a decent response instead... you know.. for a change.

 

You want a decent response, make a decent post.  It was still a legit question.



M.U.G.E.N on 11 April 2011
kowenicki said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
kowenicki said:
ethomaz said:
arcane_chaos said:

after reading the settlement:

Sony: Either follow these rules or WE WILL BURY YOU!!!!

Geohot: O-O-Okay....*checks pants*

/thread


why didnt they just bury him?  He had already committed the "crime"...  

If their case was watertight there is no way they would have compromised...  why would they?  for what?

you can ask the same Q other wway too..no one put a gun on hotz's head and ask him to settle. Sony wanted him to back off from the begining and that's exactly what they got now. If he messes with anything sony again he will be fined from 10k to 200k or something. Why should sony bother any furthure? The so called freedom fighter now and forever will be ridden of from sony products, sending him to jail could have lead to bad publicity. The message from this outcome is clear, hotz backed down ONLY cuz he knew he can't win this one, if you think otherwise you're being silly, hotz would have not stopped till the court ruled against sony. not like he wouldn't have money since people seem to be willing to pay for the court (and who knows maybe even his vacation :) I don't trust his word)

Forgive me but thats bollocks...  Hotz cant back down without Sony allowing him to, HE was being sued.

Why did Sony ALLOW Hotz to back down.. why didnt they say fuck you - see you in court.  Get a nice precendent for future issues and have done with it?

You dont seem to understand the legal process too well.

nah you just don't seem to understand simple logic that well

any company unless they are real stupid will settle for an outcome like this..always. It helps keep the possible bad publicity at bay while making the other party their bitch. Sony just don't have any reason to push the case any furthure. They just simpyl don't. Push it more and what? put the guy in jail or fine him? and how will that help their cause? scare hackers? Yeah right. It just doesn't make any sense in the long run, why waste more time when hotz is willing to back off for good? this is not a middle schoolers fight where one needz to haz revenge or anything. Settle if you can if it's favorable to you, and looking at the settlement, sony got him to do exactly what they wanted. THis DOES however send out a message, hotz who was so determined, had financial backing of 'fans', who had media coverage, who had a promising career in rap, settled only because he knew he can't win! You honestly believe if he thought he had a chance to win he wouldn't have gone all the way? SO again it's he who had to go against all he stood by so far, sony is still standing strong with what they stood for.



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goforgold on 11 April 2011
kowenicki said:
Grimes said:

I don't think for a second that Sony's only objective was to stop one guy from hacking.

They wanted to prevent set precedent where if you hack, you will be punished. The problem with this settlement is that nobody got punished, unless you consider not using Sony products a punishment. I guess that's pushishment or a blessing depending on how you look at it.

But this case will do nothing to stop people from hacking in the future, so IMO the case is a loss for Sony.


Yep, if they were sure they would have gone to court and got the precedent... they didn't... why?  Its obvious why Hotz didnt want to go to court but why not Sony?

why, because neither of you get why any of this happened, and are trying your hardest to spin it becasue you both disfavor Sony.

and @ bold WORNG!! so very very worng