Ummm, this thread has gone a little off topic...
The bottom line is, minors are too young to make a consensual agreement. That is why we have the age of consent.
naznatips said:
Because no other mods will (nor do they have the right to) reverse the ban or lessen it. You could also message BenKenobi or DKII actually. The rest of us have no right to reverse the decisions of another. Spamming the forums with it is not productive and it's more likely to get you banned than Kwaad unbanned. Understand though that we spend all day babysitting these forums for no pay, reward, or even a thanks, and you spamming the forums with "Why was this guy banned" in every topic you find is not going to end well for you. There is a proper way to appeal a ban or mod decision, and this is not it. So drop it. |
I'd just like to say, I wasn't spamming. This is the first time I've posted about the misuse of the "ban reason" field. To be honest, Kwaad has already been banned so many times, it doesn't really matter to me personally whether or not this one sticks, so I'm not asking for his ban to be reversed. I just wanted to discuss the "ban reason" field, which I assume ioi added to the forums so that it could be used properly.
Anyway, I do appreciate your post letting us know the right way to appeal a ban if we wish, and I appreciate all your hard work. I moderate another forum, so I know what it's like to be on the other side of the table, so to speak. Keep fighting the good fight. :)
Back on topic...
The problem I have with cases like this is that punishment should be commensurate with the offense. How does it do any good to lock up this 13 year old boy if what he did was consentual? The "rap sheet" even says "one count of invited sexual touching." In other words, he asked the girls if it was OK. Isn't this how we want men to behave? Don't touch without permission?
I think all the boy needs is a little counseling to explain to him the risks involved in sexual activity at his age.
On the topic of sex laws in general, they are completely screwed up in this country. We have this magical "age of consent" barrier where if you're 17 years and 364 days old, it's illegal to have sex, but wait 24 hours, and you can be in a porn film where you get tied up, slapped around, and gangbanged. Is something not wrong with this picture? Isn't there something wrong with placing an 18-year-old male on the registered sex offender list for having consentual sex with his 17-year-old girlfriend?
moomilk2k said:
EDIT: I would like to say, I drive a semi-truck, and I am a damn good driver. If I drink, and kill-someone driving my truck, when I sober up, am I forgiven my 'drunken stupor'? Or do I go to jail for murder (if you have a CDL and you kill someone, and you are proven neglegent, it is considered murder) A woman who drinks, gets drunk, and a man has sex with her. Why is he at fault, for her getting drunk. Did he shove the liquor down her throat? Did her force her to drink it? Did he tie her up and pour it down her throat? That is ALOT more than just rape going on there. Ok, why was she getting drunk, with a buch of guys who she would consent to have sex with, when drunk. Let me tell you something. I can get totally ****faced, smashed, and I dont rape girls. My wife, can get totally ****faced smashed, and she dont get raped. My cousin gets knocked up on her first date, with a deadbeat... and a few months earlier, she was screaming. "RAPE" about some guy touching her when she was totally drunk. (his side of the story was she started the touching) Needless to say, she was too stupid to press charges, but she still claimed 'rape'. When you drink, your judgement is imparied. You should not drink, when you can not trust imparied judgement. It goes along the lines of responsible drinking. A good example. If I start drinking, and I get really drunk, and I start driving a car. it's ILLEGAL, because you are impared. Why would you get imparied around people you can not trust.
Date Rape. Ever heard of "Just say No" ? That's all she has to say. My wife said it for 2 months before we ever did anything.
My point is, Starcraft, are you saying, that if a woman wears a shirt, that says. "Sex monster." And gets drunk, jumps on a guys penis, has sex with him, wakes up the next morning, and says HE RAPED ME... that's ok? Because that's how it happens alot on these stupid rape charges. (at lest the ones I have witnessed first hand) You are saying, that if a woman asks a man to touch her. (physical cues, movements) and the man slowly works around, and then touches her, and she likes it, and LETS him continue. That is rape? I could consider as long as she didnt object, that being consentual. the term rape in america, is one of my worst fears. If you look at a woman's breasts as she walks by, she can press charges on you for sexual harassment... and win. If she was wearing a shirt that showed TONS of cleavage, an was halfway seethough, and you could see everything... It's still sexual harassment... to... LOOK at them. Even a qucik glance, is sexual harassment. read the laws. If a man forces himself on a woman, and she objects before, during, and after. That is rape. If she says. "Ok, before, during. And changes her mind after." That is NOT rape, that was a mistake. EDIT2: Edited the vularities out.
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I agree with this damn near 100%, and it's why I never allow myself to become intoxicated, and think others who do so are fools.
As for the article in the OP, I'm a bit confused. Did the 13 y/o boy consentually touch a 12 y/o girl? That's only one year a part. If so, the only problem I have with that situation is that the parents of both children were too f'in stupid to bestow upon their kids a proper sense of moral decency, or, at the very least, common safe sex practices. The parents should be punished, not the child. The child should just be taught to behave better.
even so he is banned, why that time of 4 years come hey, why no the normal couple of days/weeks this must have been a mod with alot of hatred against kwaad....
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Actually, I have another question about the OP. What is "sexual interference?" Is that when a spectator gets in the way and the play is blown dead?
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moomilk2k said:
EDIT: I would like to say, I drive a semi-truck, and I am a damn good driver. If I drink, and kill-someone driving my truck, when I sober up, am I forgiven my 'drunken stupor'? Or do I go to jail for murder (if you have a CDL and you kill someone, and you are proven neglegent, it is considered murder) A woman who drinks, gets drunk, and a man has sex with her. Why is he at fault, for her getting drunk. Did he shove the liquor down her throat? Did her force her to drink it? Did he tie her up and pour it down her throat? That is ALOT more than just rape going on there. Ok, why was she getting drunk, with a buch of guys who she would consent to have sex with, when drunk. Let me tell you something. I can get totally ****faced, smashed, and I dont rape girls. My wife, can get totally ****faced smashed, and she dont get raped. My cousin gets knocked up on her first date, with a deadbeat... and a few months earlier, she was screaming. "RAPE" about some guy touching her when she was totally drunk. (his side of the story was she started the touching) Needless to say, she was too stupid to press charges, but she still claimed 'rape'. When you drink, your judgement is imparied. You should not drink, when you can not trust imparied judgement. It goes along the lines of responsible drinking. A good example. If I start drinking, and I get really drunk, and I start driving a car. it's ILLEGAL, because you are impared. Why would you get imparied around people you can not trust.
Date Rape. Ever heard of "Just say No" ? That's all she has to say. My wife said it for 2 months before we ever did anything.
My point is, Starcraft, are you saying, that if a woman wears a shirt, that says. "Sex monster." And gets drunk, jumps on a guys penis, has sex with him, wakes up the next morning, and says HE RAPED ME... that's ok? Because that's how it happens alot on these stupid rape charges. (at lest the ones I have witnessed first hand) You are saying, that if a woman asks a man to touch her. (physical cues, movements) and the man slowly works around, and then touches her, and she likes it, and LETS him continue. That is rape? I could consider as long as she didnt object, that being consentual. the term rape in america, is one of my worst fears. If you look at a woman's breasts as she walks by, she can press charges on you for sexual harassment... and win. If she was wearing a shirt that showed TONS of cleavage, an was halfway seethough, and you could see everything... It's still sexual harassment... to... LOOK at them. Even a qucik glance, is sexual harassment. read the laws. If a man forces himself on a woman, and she objects before, during, and after. That is rape. If she says. "Ok, before, during. And changes her mind after." That is NOT rape, that was a mistake. EDIT2: Edited the vularities ou |
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The legal age of consent in Canada is 14, so when i had sex with that 15 year old i'm pretty sure she raped me, i feel so violated now :P
kwaad your posts just keep getting better and better, if they are too drunk to say no then whats the harm. Where would these drunk girls sleep if there were no guys like me, just think what wrong may come to them on the streets ;)
| Entroper said: Actually, I have another question about the OP. What is "sexual interference?" Is that when a spectator gets in the way and the play is blown dead? |
As for the Sexual invitation.
152. Every person who, for a sexual purpose, invites, counsels or incites a person under the age of fourteen years to touch, directly or indirectly, with a part of the body or with an object, the body of any person, including the body of the person who so invites, counsels or incites and the body of the person under the age of fourteen years, is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years or is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.
In other words, talking really dirty to someone underage.
I'd of banned him too. He basically said it was ok to sexually assault people because they were catholics.
To everyone just assuming they wanted to be touched, what the hell is that about?
What gives you any indication of that? There is no mention of it at all in the article.
And people wonder why it's so hard for rape victims to come foward, Aside from the... massive psychological trauma.
His posts are generally off topic... and would be the same if you found an article that simply said.
"Deron Tyson was shot today"
and someone posted
"Plenty of people get shot because they desrve to because they are criminals or attack other people."
He assumed something negative about the victim for no reason.
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