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Will Sony sticks its penis in the hornet's nest?

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goforgold on 04 April 2011
Euphoria14 said:
goforgold said:
Euphoria14 said:
goforgold said:

how much money do you think Sony is saving on removing other os? Fucking bucket loads I'd bet, I mean I'd wager they put the feature in JUST so they could remove it to save SOO much money, I mean it's not like they launched the damn ps3 for 250 dollars less than what it's worth, they have been profiting off of the ps3 this entire time, and removed other os.....just to fuck with people and of course save SOOO much fucking money, greedy bastards, who are they to modify shit THEY FUCKING OWN.

I could go forever.....and you still wouldn't get it -_-


You act as if getting angry makes your argument stronger.

Point is simple. You are supporting the lose of rights for security in online video games. I understand your argument just well, however I also know that company will continually create fixes to deal with future online issues.

However, you can't so easily create a fix for your lost rights.

 

Go ahead and think that I am the one not understanding things though. At least I know I am on my side and not on the side of corporation for the sole interest of my video games, which aren't going to suddenly vanish.

yeah like I said to another poster, you fucking HOPE is more like it.

Because benieth the bullshit you support you know as well as I that it takes just ONE of these fucking pieces of shit to find something big that can bring it all crumbling down, and they'll do it to because unlike the people at Sony who are heavily invested in this business these asshole aren't and couldn't care less. 

at least with Sony I know the only people that would get fucked over buy this are arrogant naive fucking assholes who will NEVER put in an eighth of the amount of investment Sony has in these products, where's gehots game console huh? where anno's online gaming network huh? these fuckers won't do shit in providing their own but they'll fuck everyone's else up though.

you think Sony is in this for the sole purpose of fucking over their consumer? that if Sony wins this they will do nothing but make products just to fuck over the people who buy them??? You do know without you the consumer there would be no Sony right?

fucking blows my mind this shit, people wouldn't fucking hesitate to post the massive losses Sony has occurred this gen, omg omg 5 plus billionz lost Sony are n teh RED!!! but when they make a decision to cut a feature to save cost which not only makes sense but makes PERFECT fucking sense it's OMG omg $ony are GREEDY, they cut features to line their own pockets.

what a fucking joke, I pity all of you in here supporting these assholes, who couldn't give two fucks about you, against the very company who MADE, invested, and LOST heavily in the very console your currently fucking playing. So they made a tough choice to cut a feature few were using to save on the mass money pit that is the ps3, boo fucking hoo, you people think Sony is making money off this?? probably hurt them more than you, (just look at what the ps3 was suppose to be and see what I mean).

anyway, the naivety and ignorance ASTOUNDS me in this thread.

Good luck to you sir on all your future endevours.

Let us just hope they do not revoke your right to curse left and right along the way.

because there IS someone who owns, spent RnD, produced, and distributed for profit the word FUCK....or any curse word for that matter....

anyway I'm done for now *goes back to GT5*



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Euphoria14 on 04 April 2011
goforgold said:
Euphoria14 said:
goforgold said:
Euphoria14 said:
goforgold said:

how much money do you think Sony is saving on removing other os? Fucking bucket loads I'd bet, I mean I'd wager they put the feature in JUST so they could remove it to save SOO much money, I mean it's not like they launched the damn ps3 for 250 dollars less than what it's worth, they have been profiting off of the ps3 this entire time, and removed other os.....just to fuck with people and of course save SOOO much fucking money, greedy bastards, who are they to modify shit THEY FUCKING OWN.

I could go forever.....and you still wouldn't get it -_-


You act as if getting angry makes your argument stronger.

Point is simple. You are supporting the lose of rights for security in online video games. I understand your argument just well, however I also know that company will continually create fixes to deal with future online issues.

However, you can't so easily create a fix for your lost rights.

 

Go ahead and think that I am the one not understanding things though. At least I know I am on my side and not on the side of corporation for the sole interest of my video games, which aren't going to suddenly vanish.

yeah like I said to another poster, you fucking HOPE is more like it.

Because benieth the bullshit you support you know as well as I that it takes just ONE of these fucking pieces of shit to find something big that can bring it all crumbling down, and they'll do it to because unlike the people at Sony who are heavily invested in this business these asshole aren't and couldn't care less. 

at least with Sony I know the only people that would get fucked over buy this are arrogant naive fucking assholes who will NEVER put in an eighth of the amount of investment Sony has in these products, where's gehots game console huh? where anno's online gaming network huh? these fuckers won't do shit in providing their own but they'll fuck everyone's else up though.

you think Sony is in this for the sole purpose of fucking over their consumer? that if Sony wins this they will do nothing but make products just to fuck over the people who buy them??? You do know without you the consumer there would be no Sony right?

fucking blows my mind this shit, people wouldn't fucking hesitate to post the massive losses Sony has occurred this gen, omg omg 5 plus billionz lost Sony are n teh RED!!! but when they make a decision to cut a feature to save cost which not only makes sense but makes PERFECT fucking sense it's OMG omg $ony are GREEDY, they cut features to line their own pockets.

what a fucking joke, I pity all of you in here supporting these assholes, who couldn't give two fucks about you, against the very company who MADE, invested, and LOST heavily in the very console your currently fucking playing. So they made a tough choice to cut a feature few were using to save on the mass money pit that is the ps3, boo fucking hoo, you people think Sony is making money off this?? probably hurt them more than you, (just look at what the ps3 was suppose to be and see what I mean).

anyway, the naivety and ignorance ASTOUNDS me in this thread.

Good luck to you sir on all your future endevours.

Let us just hope they do not revoke your right to curse left and right along the way.

because there IS someone who owns, spent RnD, produced, and distributed for profit the word FUCK....or any curse word for that matter....

anyway I'm done for now *goes back to GT5*


Do you understand the reprucussions of this case depending on who wins?

Do you understand that if George Hotz wins, you lose nothing?

Do you understand that if Sony wins, you lose rights?

 

And you are astounded by my ignorance? 

Regardless of what you think or how much you yell, scream or curse at me, I am on your side.

Unfortunately you sir, are not on your own side, but rather the side of the multi-billion dollar corporations who only care about the almighty dollar sign. They don't care about you.



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leatherhat on 04 April 2011
Euphoria14 said:
goforgold said:
Euphoria14 said:

Good luck to you sir on all your future endevours.

Let us just hope they do not revoke your right to curse left and right along the way.

because there IS someone who owns, spent RnD, produced, and distributed for profit the word FUCK....or any curse word for that matter....

anyway I'm done for now *goes back to GT5*


Do you understand the reprucussions of this case depending on who wins?

Do you understand that if George Hotz wins, you lose nothing?

Do you understand that if Sony wins, you lose rights?

 

And you are astounded by my ignorance? 

Regardless of what you think or how much you yell, scream or curse at me, I am on your side.

Unfortunately you sir, are not on your own side, but rather the side of the multi-billion dollar corporations who only care about the almighty dollar sign. They don't care about you.

In fairness, nobody involved does. 



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Kasz216 on 04 April 2011
goforgold said:
Kasz216 said:
goforgold said:
Euphoria14 said:
goforgold said:
Euphoria14 said:
goforgold said:
kcoward said:
Cunning_Linguist said:

What about my rights as a consumer to be able to use a service that fecktards with no jobs spend their lives trying to ruin. Fuck Anon! Fuck them in the arse until they get hemorrhoids that then burst and get infected and they need rectalplasties.

What about all the people that paid $600 to use Other OS on their system only for Sony to take out the feature for the sole purpose of their own greed?

their own greed, your joking right

 

*facepalm* because your not

There is a court case about Sony removing Linux to save costs on licensing and not because of security reasons, so no he isn't joking.

how much money do you think Sony is saving on removing other os? Fucking bucket loads I'd bet, I mean I'd wager they put the feature in JUST so they could remove it to save SOO much money, I mean it's not like they launched the damn ps3 for 250 dollars less than what it's worth, they have been profiting off of the ps3 this entire time, and removed other os.....just to fuck with people and of course save SOOO much fucking money, greedy bastards, who are they to modify shit THEY FUCKING OWN.

I could go forever.....and you still wouldn't get it -_-


You act as if getting angry makes your argument stronger.

Point is simple. You are supporting the lose of rights for security in online video games. I understand your argument just well, however I also know that company will continually create fixes to deal with future online issues.

However, you can't so easily create a fix for your lost rights.

 

Go ahead and think that I am the one not understanding things though. At least I know I am on my side and not on the side of corporation for the sole interest of my video games, which aren't going to suddenly vanish.

yeah like I said to another poster, you fucking HOPE is more like it.

Because benieth the bullshit you support you know as well as I that it takes just ONE of these fucking pieces of shit to find something big that can bring it all crumbling down, and they'll do it to because unlike the people at Sony who are heavily invested in this business these asshole aren't and couldn't care less. 

at least with Sony I know the only people that would get fucked over buy this are arrogant naive fucking assholes who will NEVER put in an eighth of the amount of investment Sony has in these products, where's gehots game console huh? where anno's online gaming network huh? these fuckers won't do shit in providing their own but they'll fuck everyone's else up though.

you think Sony is in this for the sole purpose of fucking over their consumer? that if Sony wins this they will do nothing but make products just to fuck over the people who buy them??? You do know without you the consumer there would be no Sony right?

fucking blows my mind this shit, people wouldn't fucking hesitate to post the massive losses Sony has occurred this gen, omg omg 5 plus billionz lost Sony are n teh RED!!! but when they make a decision to cut a feature to save cost which not only makes sense but makes PERFECT fucking sense it's OMG omg $ony are GREEDY, they cut features to line their own pockets.

what a fucking joke, I pity all of you in here supporting these assholes, who couldn't give two fucks about you, against the very company who MADE, invested, and LOST heavily in the very console your currently fucking playing. So they made a tough choice to cut a feature few were using to save on the mass money pit that is the ps3, boo fucking hoo, you people think Sony is making money off this?? probably hurt them more than you, (just look at what the ps3 was suppose to be and see what I mean).

anyway, the naivety and ignorance ASTOUNDS me in this thread.

Yes... because hacking on the PS3 is going to destroy all gaming....

Just like it did on the PC, Wii, PS3, Gamecube, DS....

basically every other system known to man.

 

I could go forever.....and you still wouldn't get it -_-

point to me where I said that *facepalm*


You bolded "Videogames aren't going to vanish".

Which means you were responding to that.  And you said "More like you fucking HOPE".

 

Suggesting that it would destroy videogames, even though the PS3... the most "piracy safe" machine, actually is probably the worst when it comes to sales.



Mr Khan on 04 April 2011
goforgold said:
ssj12 said:
goforgold said:
ssj12 said:
kitler53 said:
ssj12 said:
goforgold said:
 

your naivety and ignorance is astounding, yeah you fucking hope they won't go that far is more like it

eh, really I couldn't care either way. I expect them to just hack the PSN, drop prices, and maybe block the admins forcing the network division to have to hack their own service to change things back.

It will be an epic knockout punch either way. Just one will be a sucker punch that leads to the knockout, and the other will be a brutal punch straight to the nose with brass knuckles.

i'm quickly learning you are a very very scary person.  the posts i've seen you make lately really scare the hell out of me. 

I believe and support certain things, Freedom of Information, Civil Rights, and Freedom of Property are three. Sony is violating all three and should be stopped. And the justice system really can't be trusted as its easily bought out and unjust. Its the people who need to stand up for their rights.

what total bullshit, and what's worse is you actuallly believe this shit

What bullshit?

I have every right to modify the products I purchase.

Purchase does NOT mean OWN, you brought a ps3 but you didn't buy the software that runs the ps3, you had to sign a agreement in order to use the firmware, It's SONY'S firmware and they can do what ever the hell they want with it.

I have every right to read, disclose, and have access to information.

NO the FUCK you don't and if you really really think you do your even more naive and ignorant than I thought

I have every right to voice my opinion and take action over things I consider violations of my rights.

Yeah you do

that fucking bullshit

No, you do own the device and can modify it as you will, and your copy of the firmware that runs on it. You can't redistribute the firmware, but that's a different matter



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Euphoria14 on 04 April 2011
leatherhat said:
Euphoria14 said:
goforgold said:
Euphoria14 said:

Good luck to you sir on all your future endevours.

Let us just hope they do not revoke your right to curse left and right along the way.

because there IS someone who owns, spent RnD, produced, and distributed for profit the word FUCK....or any curse word for that matter....

anyway I'm done for now *goes back to GT5*


Do you understand the reprucussions of this case depending on who wins?

Do you understand that if George Hotz wins, you lose nothing?

Do you understand that if Sony wins, you lose rights?

 

And you are astounded by my ignorance? 

Regardless of what you think or how much you yell, scream or curse at me, I am on your side.

Unfortunately you sir, are not on your own side, but rather the side of the multi-billion dollar corporations who only care about the almighty dollar sign. They don't care about you.

In fairness, nobody involved does. 

You're right, but their side at least has the potential to help me in the end.



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Kasz216 on 04 April 2011
Mr Khan said:
goforgold said:
ssj12 said:
goforgold said:
ssj12 said:
kitler53 said:
ssj12 said:
goforgold said:
 

your naivety and ignorance is astounding, yeah you fucking hope they won't go that far is more like it

eh, really I couldn't care either way. I expect them to just hack the PSN, drop prices, and maybe block the admins forcing the network division to have to hack their own service to change things back.

It will be an epic knockout punch either way. Just one will be a sucker punch that leads to the knockout, and the other will be a brutal punch straight to the nose with brass knuckles.

i'm quickly learning you are a very very scary person.  the posts i've seen you make lately really scare the hell out of me. 

I believe and support certain things, Freedom of Information, Civil Rights, and Freedom of Property are three. Sony is violating all three and should be stopped. And the justice system really can't be trusted as its easily bought out and unjust. Its the people who need to stand up for their rights.

what total bullshit, and what's worse is you actuallly believe this shit

What bullshit?

I have every right to modify the products I purchase.

Purchase does NOT mean OWN, you brought a ps3 but you didn't buy the software that runs the ps3, you had to sign a agreement in order to use the firmware, It's SONY'S firmware and they can do what ever the hell they want with it.

I have every right to read, disclose, and have access to information.

NO the FUCK you don't and if you really really think you do your even more naive and ignorant than I thought

I have every right to voice my opinion and take action over things I consider violations of my rights.

Yeah you do

that fucking bullshit

No, you do own the device and can modify it as you will, and your copy of the firmware that runs on it. You can't redistribute the firmware, but that's a different matter

Well, in the Geohotz lawsuit, sony is argueing it's all illegal.

 

Though  logically the above doesn't make sense.

I mean, you can jailbreak your Iphone, but your son can't jailbreak it for you.

How does that make sense in the least?

Isn't that just creating one set of rights for the technologically able and another set of rights for those who aren't?

Isn't that... and I hate to use the comparsion but it's the only legal precedent i can currently think of.  Isn't it basically a modern "Jim Crow" law?

You can only have a hacked Iphone, if you prove your technologically savy enough to make one?



kitler53 on 04 April 2011
Euphoria14 said:
leatherhat said:
Euphoria14 said:

Time to bust out some good ol' Abe Lincoln for you guys. 

 

"Those who sacrifice Liberty for Security deserve neither"


Except theres no sacrifice of liberty- I can still hack my ps3 if I want and do with it what I will


If Sony wins then your PS3 modding could be punishable by law. Even so little as putting a new casing on it.

Think about that for a moment.

 

Will they find out about a case mod? Probably not, but it is still the principle of the whole thing. You bought it, it is yours, end of story. Sony doesn't like you modding or hacking, then ban your PSN account.

Unless of course instead you want them to rightfully kill consoles. 

Just hope you don't end up as one of those "victims of the system" who do nothing wrong but somehow end up with an unfixable bricked console because guess what, it will happen.

as you said in the post above this one, "I think people are getting paranoid ..."

putting an option to install linux on the ps3 in the first place was the biggest olive branch in the world sony could have done to the hacker/homebrew community to let them run their custom code on a ps3.

but despite that they gave sony the finger anyways -- first with the other OS overflow bug then by deciphering the ps3's security key.  

hell, sony also lets you use a standard HDD to upgrade your system unlike the 360's proprietary drive.

sony doesn't give two-shits if you mod your consoles casing and it is ridiculous you'd even think they every will.  sony is trying to protect the billions of dollars in investment they've put into the ps3 and rightfully so.  



hasanwhy on 04 April 2011

A group of individuals who believe that they are working for the people? Really now, thanks for alerting Sony and taking down my PSN. You guys are sooo awesome. Seriously, pat-yourself on the pack because...well..you guys are heroes. 

To be quite honest, what kind of dillusion (drugs?) are they in/using? And why hasn't an individual with say oh I don't know a supercomputer just go Ctrl Alt Delete on these guys? <--Like what I did there :D 



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Ssenkahdavic on 04 April 2011

I still cannot fathom how people are so angry with Sony over all of this.  Sony HAD to respond to what was going on.  On one side they had 3rd Party companies talking about how bad it was to the media (I remember reading an EA (I think it was) press release about how devastating the PS3 hacks could be) and on the otherhand you have very concerned Stock Holders.  They had to at least try. 

Most of their lawsuits are just plain Silly and really should never have been allowed in court, let alone ruled in their favor.  Once one suit was allowed, why not keep going?  If the court is "sympathetic" to large Corporation A, let us keep pressing our advantage.  Hell, Sony would have been STUPID not to do have pushed the envelope here.

The only thing Sony has done recently to me, that has really irked me, was the removal of Other OS.  This feature missing from the new Slims does not bother me, it is the removal from my Phat 60gig. 

The problem with people like Geo is not what they are doing, it is how people use what they have done.  There is nothing worse than running into Map Hackers in any multiplayer game. 

 

Be Angry at the US Court System, not at Sony.

Xen said:

Ssenkahdavic said:

I do not recommend that anyone sticks their penis into a hornet's nest.  This sounds painful.

I'd love to know what this post said before it was edited ;)

I posted it on your wall :)



 

  

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