Final-Fan said:
I think you mean "PC fanboys thinking the PC is where all advancements in gaming happen" or something like that, right? |
...No? o.0
Either way, I think the PC recieves too much credit for its impact on the gaming industry.

Final-Fan said:
I think you mean "PC fanboys thinking the PC is where all advancements in gaming happen" or something like that, right? |
...No? o.0
Either way, I think the PC recieves too much credit for its impact on the gaming industry.

Final-Fan said:
Well, I at least understand that position, but I still totally disagree. You cannot reread a book you've sold. You cannot replay a game you've sold. Admittedly you don't read a book as often as you drive a car, but that is still different from 500 people playing the same pirated game at once. |
I understand exactly where you are coming from as well. I just feel that you have used up the value of the book the moment you are done reading it, and nothing can take that way.
Edit: I don't mean that re-reading doesn't have value, it's just much much smaller than that initial one.
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brendude13 said:
...No? o.0 Either way, I think the PC recieves too much credit for its impact on the gaming industry. |
Oh you mean like.... online play and FPS games?
Edit: I can name a whole bunch more those were just the first glaring ones.
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vlad321 said:
I understand exactly where you are coming from as well. I just feel that you have used up the value of the book the moment you are done reading it, and nothing can take that way. Edit: I don't mean that re-reading doesn't have value, it's just much much smaller than that initial one. |
Well, there's a world of difference between "it's not as good the second time around" and "you can never reuse this unless you buy another". Also, again, you can't play a used game at the same time someone else is playing THESAME used game.
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Final-Fan said:
Well, there's a world of difference between "it's not as good the second time around" and "you can never reuse this unless you buy another". Also, again, you can't play a used game at the same time someone else is playing THESAME used game. |
Agreed. However I still stand by my case that repeat value is of a much smaller magnitutude than the first go around. I know that when I start read Song of Ice and Fire again (new book in July!), I will not have nowhere near the same awe as when I first read throgh them and it will be more of a retread. If I sold them (or my bitch ex steals them) then I have duplicated that enormous feeling of enjoyment.
I do have an interesting question though. It is within your rights to make a copy as a backup of your game. When you sell that game, do you destroy those copies?
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DRM is hurting PC gaming more than anything. I don't think console gaming is necessarily harming PC gaming. Here is the deal: When developers make a big-budget videogame that requires PC specs that a big chunk of PC users don't have (remember: many people are shifting away from desktops to laptops now and lots of people that do have desktops don't want to spend the money to upgrade or don't have the know-how to build a rig), their not going to have that big of an install base of gamers to work with. That's where the home consoles come in. Ever notice how Blizzard games stay PC exclusive? It's because they make games with modest spec requirements. World of Warcraft: Catacylsm can probably run on a pretty old laptop and Starcraft 2 can run on a number of laptops as well. My two year old Dell Studio should be able to run Starcraft 2 no problem.
You will see exceptions to the rule like The Witcher 2 but CD Projekt RED employs cheap Polish labour to keep costs down ($7 million development budget apparently) and The Witcher and CD Projekt itself has built up a huge cult following on the PC end. It's not every day that a PC-exclusive game is as successful as The Witcher 2. This is why you're starting to see modest spec games like World of Warcraft, Starcraft 2 and the Sims as well as small-budget indie games (ie. Terraria) dominate the PC gaming space. A game like Terraria is cheap to make and can reach a whole lot of PC gamers (game can run on an old laptop).
vlad321 said:
Oh you mean like.... online play and FPS games? Edit: I can name a whole bunch more those were just the first glaring ones. |
Yes, PC started FPS and online games, but I wouldn't flaunt that as if it was a GOOD thing, especially when you look at the gaming industry now.

irstupid said:
computer games come out with low to insane levels of graphics. hell witcher 2 right now on ultimate low and low resolution looks like a ps1 game, meanwhile i'm not sure if anyoen has a computer that can run it on its maximum settings and resolution. and guess waht, that game cost a fraction to make as what most hd console games cost. so do they have to solely target the uber high end pc's? no, that is the beauty of pc games, you can set your own graphics so that you can run it optimally.
edit: and i love how so many of you say PC gamers are complaining. Well duh, but its not a selfish whine. Most of our whinning is when you change things for the worse. We aren't asking for the impossible. The most common is one he already mentioned. MENU control. I mean wtf, we have a perfectly good mouse and plenty of keys, why restrict us to using arrow keys and pushing S or enter, or whatever we set it up to be. Or hell even worse, NOT letting us set up buttons to what we want. We dont' care if a game is on PC, 360, PS3, Wii, Ds or you name it. We just don't want you shitting on us. if you want to keep graphics back so that you can easily port to all 3 systems or wahtever that is fine, but don't gimp our controls or menu. |
haven't you heard ?
The mouse is dead. the future is touchscreen. ( that's the cool aid Apple has been selling and from what i hear it's pretty successfull...)
brendude13 said:
Yes, PC started FPS and online games, but I wouldn't flaunt that as if it was a GOOD thing, especially when you look at the gaming industry now. |
Yes, because consoles picked up on online play and FPS games. They were fine before they got on consoles. Interesting, huh?
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Ail said:
haven't you heard ? The mouse is dead. the future is touchscreen. ( that's the cool aid Apple has been selling and from what i hear it's pretty successfull...) |
yea gotta love having a huge ass finger covering up the screen and needing to have BIG objects so that you don't push more at once. I tried typing on my parents phone the other day and i was pushign the wrong buttons like 90% of the time.
try and watch a aiphone game online on youtube. have fun watching 2/3 fo the screen and someone finger on the other 1/3