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Do you belive in ghosts?

Yes 18 24.32%
 
No 56 75.68%
 
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highwaystar101 said:
Kasz216 said:
highwaystar101 said:
Kasz216 said:
highwaystar101 said:

Was the bomb shelter built at a slight angle at all? I would have imagined that if the shelter was built on an incline then the door would have a tendency to slam shut if it opened towards the top of the incline, and the heavier it is the harder it would slam, all it may have needed to slam hard was a nudge. That would be my immediate assumption if a heavy door slammed shut.

Nope.

Sorry late reply. The point I'm getting at though is that I think there are more reasonable explanations, perhaps a factor that you may have overlooked. The door slamming due to supernatural interference is far less likely than many other explanations.

Hence, "Yes and No."

I am open to it being so, but don't believe it because I feel like there should be an alternate explination.

Not accepting something becuase "there has to be another explination" I feel is one of the greatest weaknesses of a scientist and a viewpoint I try to avoid.  It's why scientific revolutions are usually made at the feet of outdated scientists rather then the new and old going hand in hand together.

Heck "ghosts" may actually end up having a rational explination not yet known, invloving string theory or intersecting dimensions or who knows what that has nothing to do with peoples spirits.


I'm not saying that "there has to be another explanation", I'm saying that it's likely that there is another explanation.

If a heavy door slammed shut and I wanted to know why, the possibility that it was a ghost would certainly not be one of the first things I would investigate because I would see that as an incredibly unlikely event when taking into consideration other possible events.

Obviously though you could never rule out the possibility that it was influenced by a ghost because as I said earlier in this thread you can't really prove a negative. If the ghost doesn't exist, then you can't prove that it doesn't exist. all you could really ever say is "It's not known whether this was an influence or not due to a lack of evidence".

And your last statementabout the rational explanation being something to do with string theory is a popular one with Muslims when they try to explain Djinn, which I guess are kind of like ghosts.

That's surprising, i mean consdiering that Djinn's main thing is that they live in a parralel world i'd think interesecting dimensions would be a more popular explination.

Like I said, I don't disagree, but at the same time, I'm not ruling anything out.  Too often things of the past are disregarded as false, simply because they are things of the past and a lot of information has been lost on it.


Like various civilizations in the bible that were thought fake, until later archaelogical proof proved their existence, or lost technology like sterlization.  

Think how supernatural germ theory was considered by people between Roman days and today.  (I forget the roman surgeon who worked with germ theory.  Famous guy too...)

Heck, even after they started reusing some of the technques of sterelization, germ theory was thought to be insane.



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Kasz216 said:

That's surprising, i mean consdiering that Djinn's main thing is that they live in a parralel world i'd think interesecting dimensions would be a more popular explination.

Like I said, I don't disagree, but at the same time, I'm not ruling anything out.  Too often things of the past are disregarded as false, simply because they are things of the past and a lot of information has been lost on it.


Like various civilizations in the bible that were thought fake, until later archaelogical proof proved their existence, or lost technology like sterlization.  

Think how supernatural germ theory was considered by people between Roman days and today.  (I forget the roman surgeon who worked with germ theory.  Famous guy too...)

Heck, even after they started reusing some of the technques of sterelization, germ theory was thought to be insane.

Well, It's come up a few times; mostly by the same group though. There's a "monthly Quran project" at my University, which is where once a month a group of muslim students roam the canteen looking for debates with other students in the hope that they convince them of the scientific merit of Islam. They've tried to explain Djinn with string theory to me several times, but it's always came accross as, er, very speculative to say the least.

Anyway, I think we're pulling from the same end of the rope here, I would never rule it out either, I would just class it as an unlikely explanation. So I think I'll stop here if that's ok.



PS: No I don't believe in ghosts, but I've always to see one n_n



miz1q2w3e said:

PS: No I don't believe in ghosts, but I've always to see one n_n

annoymus is attacking!