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Kirameo said:
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That's just a wet dream. The truth is that if we don't take care of the underlying problems of the world as it is today (poverty, hunger and lack of sustainable technologies/application of these), our society would collapse.

When you multiply they population by 10, you have to multiply the amount of cars in the world by 10, unless we work seriously on public transport. Multiply the amount of food produced by 10 and the water available by 10.

In the FUTURE all of this will be possible but we need SHORT TERM solutions if we want to see that future.


If we really desperately needed nuclear fusion it would be done in a year.

That plus hydrogen cars = limitless energy.

Water would be done by desalination and pipelines despite the downsides.

Food is still an issue.



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One way or another something needs to be done.

People are afraid to act but the more they wait the worst it's going to become.

The one-child policy is essential. Perhaps two children should be accepted since having a brother or a sister is very beneficial.



pizzahut451 said:
numonex said:
pizzahut451 said:

 


Uh, you do realise comunism is an atheist ideology that persecutes theists? God knows how many christians stalin persecuted and killed during his rulership. communisam banns religion and church in the country...

"This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d'honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification. It is the fantastic realization of the human essence since the human essence has not acquired any true reality. The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion. Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness" - Karl Marx

The first problem when talking about communism is knowing how to distinguish communism from the results of social aspects within communism. Socialism is in it's bases form a set of tools that attempt to fully reach a egalitarian end with the catalyst being altruism, Communism is in itself a method of managing the results of socialism, which is centralizing power. Now one thing that people fail to note about Communists regimes in history like Stalin is that not only did he kill the religious he also killed political adversaries, this included those of non-belief, a whole group of Anarchist some Atheist supporters of Stalin were wiped out once he showed his meglomania. If there is any truth to this that should be obvious it's that Stalin's actions showed the typical signs of a tyrant wanting to assert his domain.

This also throws out your statement that Communism in itself aims to kill theists. Stalins agenda had nothing to do with Atheism as even today in some areas ofRussia people still idolize him or Putin in a way someone may call near deified.



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dib8rman said:
pizzahut451 said:
numonex said:
pizzahut451 said:
 

 


Uh, you do realise comunism is an atheist ideology that persecutes theists? God knows how many christians stalin persecuted and killed during his rulership. communisam banns religion and church in the country...

"This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d'honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification. It is the fantastic realization of the human essence since the human essence has not acquired any true reality. The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion. Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness" - Karl Marx

The first problem when talking about communism is knowing how to distinguish communism from the results of social aspects within communism. Socialism is in it's bases form a set of tools that attempt to fully reach a egalitarian end with the catalyst being altruism, Communism is in itself a method of managing the results of socialism, which is centralizing power. Now one thing that people fail to note about Communists regimes in history like Stalin is that not only did he kill the religious he also killed political adversaries, this included those of non-belief, a whole group of Anarchist some Atheist supporters of Stalin were wiped out once he showed his meglomania. If there is any truth to this that should be obvious it's that Stalin's actions showed the typical signs of a tyrant wanting to assert his domain.

This also throws out your statement that Communism in itself aims to kill theists. Stalins agenda had nothing to do with Atheism as even today in some areas ofRussia people still idolize him or Putin in a way someone may call near deified.


Communisam is against religion and banns every religious holiday in the country as well as the church. Stalin DID persecute theists and religious people. These are both well know facts, what are you trying to prove?



Well if their is an country that needs a population control then it would be Nigeria, saw it on tv yesterday and was kind of shocking;.

In 1960 population estimation => 20 million (Population of New York)..

In 1990 population estimation => 84 million (Population of New york California Texas).

In 2011 population estimation => 150 miliion
 ( Population of Texas California New York Florida  Illinois Pennsylvania Ohio Michigan Georgia)..

In 2050 population estimation 350- 400 million (More than USA?)...

Small detail, it is one poorest countries in the world....poor as many feel lucky they can eat something a day.



 

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Soleron said:
Tony_Stark said:
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Not at all, the facts don't lie buddy. There is still plenty of space on the the earth for humans, and as I said before, there are plenty of renewable resources here as well.


Many more humans can be supported by Earth, yes. But not with Western lifestyles and not with the non-renewable resource usage rate.

Why not? We will adapt, we always have, and always will.

We could probably do 100 billion people if we killed all the nonessential wildlife and plants, and lived in spacestation like environments with near total recycling.

Thus proving my point...although taking it to an extreme I would not have.





"with great power, comes great responsibility."

Tony_Stark said:
Soleron said:
Tony_Stark said:
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Not at all, the facts don't lie buddy. There is still plenty of space on the the earth for humans, and as I said before, there are plenty of renewable resources here as well.


Many more humans can be supported by Earth, yes. But not with Western lifestyles and not with the non-renewable resource usage rate.

Why not? We will adapt, we always have, and always will.

We could probably do 100 billion people if we killed all the nonessential wildlife and plants, and lived in spacestation like environments with near total recycling.

Thus proving my point...although taking it to an extreme I would not have.



We adapts, the planet does not.



 

Kirameo said:
Tony_Stark said:
Soleron said:
Tony_Stark said:
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Not at all, the facts don't lie buddy. There is still plenty of space on the the earth for humans, and as I said before, there are plenty of renewable resources here as well.


Many more humans can be supported by Earth, yes. But not with Western lifestyles and not with the non-renewable resource usage rate.

Why not? We will adapt, we always have, and always will.

We could probably do 100 billion people if we killed all the nonessential wildlife and plants, and lived in spacestation like environments with near total recycling.

Thus proving my point...although taking it to an extreme I would not have.



We adapts, the planet does not.


It doesn't have to.



"with great power, comes great responsibility."

pizzahut451 said:
dib8rman said:
pizzahut451 said:
numonex said:
pizzahut451 said:
 

 


Uh, you do realise comunism is an atheist ideology that persecutes theists? God knows how many christians stalin persecuted and killed during his rulership. communisam banns religion and church in the country...

"This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d'honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification. It is the fantastic realization of the human essence since the human essence has not acquired any true reality. The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion. Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness" - Karl Marx

The first problem when talking about communism is knowing how to distinguish communism from the results of social aspects within communism. Socialism is in it's bases form a set of tools that attempt to fully reach a egalitarian end with the catalyst being altruism, Communism is in itself a method of managing the results of socialism, which is centralizing power. Now one thing that people fail to note about Communists regimes in history like Stalin is that not only did he kill the religious he also killed political adversaries, this included those of non-belief, a whole group of Anarchist some Atheist supporters of Stalin were wiped out once he showed his meglomania. If there is any truth to this that should be obvious it's that Stalin's actions showed the typical signs of a tyrant wanting to assert his domain.

This also throws out your statement that Communism in itself aims to kill theists. Stalins agenda had nothing to do with Atheism as even today in some areas ofRussia people still idolize him or Putin in a way someone may call near deified.


Communisam is against religion and banns every religious holiday in the country as well as the church. Stalin DID persecute theists and religious people. These are both well know facts, what are you trying to prove?

That there is a difference between application and what's on paper, that communism by Marx's position wouldn't call on the slaughter of theists while communism by Stalin would.

The second thing that I said above was that Stalin slew not just theists but atheists as well, the numbers for the atheists can't seem as large as the christian numbers only because there were less of them and they were harder to pick out. You can't exactly figure out what a person is if they have no belief - it was only by the fact that these atheists were in political or social opposition to Stalin that they were bought to death.

It isn't such a complicated fact to grab, Stalin killed anyone who was against him or held opposing ideologies. It can only be hard to understand by a theist in denial of the fact that religion is policy making and thus Stalin sought to be rid of that as well. That by doing this all Stalin was doing was exercising his powers as a despot.



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Communism is not an atheist belief system. Communism is a political ideology. Communists believers have religious fanatical followers that truly believe in the Communist propaganda and Communist ideology. Religious groups who opposed Communism were eliminated by the Communist Party. Russian Bolshevik Communist followers included Christians and Jews. 

Political opponents and non-believers in Communism regardless if they followed a religion were eliminated. Communism is a brutal regime that does not allow political opposition. No free sppeech, military police state(Stasi), everything is censored by the State and everyone must confirm and obey the State government. 

The leader of the Communist Party: Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Put, et al are regarded as an Earthly God who must be obeyed. Fanatical political ideologies such as Communism, National Socialism and Fascism have a religious/cuklt follower and are in a way a religious following imposed by the government.