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Under the assumption it hurts no one else, of course.

Such as suicide. Why don't we just let people end their own lives if they're so miserable with living it? Aren't WE the ones being selfish by demanding they continue living in misery? Why can't we just respect there decision if they've thought about it and made the choice for themselves?

I mean, here in the US, some people demand 'death with dignity' if a person has no hope of recovery so we already allow it under special circumstances. We even still have a death penalty here. Yet, we can't just accept people wanting to end there own miserable existence if they want to. We have fake promoters like that man who was born with no legs and no arms who is used as a media pawn to pretend he's happy with his life. Oh sure, he'll act geniunely happy on camera but what about when he wakes-up in the morning and needs someone to put his clothes on, to give him a bath, to feed him his food? It's absolutely humilating. It's only human for him to envy those who have such capabilities to do such things on there own.

We try to be logical about suicide, to make it seem silly and stupid. But honestly, it's all about how they FEEL. It's never about logic. It's about the feelings they have when they wake-up in the morning, when they look in the mirror and see some pissant, or when they look around and find nothing to love. Why can't we just let these innocent people stop there suffering and allow them to find there own happiness even if its in the next world? After all, most of us religious folks believe in a benevolent diety (or deities depending on your religion). So why can't we give a prayer of comfort and let them be off to join what they believe in instead of thinking they sinned because they were, in fact, suffering? Why do we condemn them if they're already suffering? Why can't we just let them be happy with there choice?

What do you all think? And please, take what I say into careful consideration before automatically branding this all to be absurd, because honestly, some people really do suffer in life and simply can't stand the pain.



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I do agree with legalising euthanasia.

The arguments I've heard against it are ridiculous. Some people seem to think euthanasia will lead to doctors having the ability to kill you after a car crash. If anybody has any good arguments against it, please do tell. On most political and social issues, I can see both sides of the argument, but not this one.



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As for what you're saying about legalising regular suicide, I don't agree there. It shouldn't be legal unless you have a serious condition that impairs your ability to live a good life, or you are in pain, and you want to die.

Why? Because depression is a passing thing. You might feel that nobody loves you one day, and meet a fantastic girl/guy the next. You could have financial issues, and they could be resolved within a few months. By keeping suicide illegal, we put up some sort of barrier against a premature end to what could still be a fulfilling life.



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Honestly, I completely agree with this.

My take on the problem is that we as people are selfish.  We care more about the idea that we will have lost something if the person passes away than we care about that own person's feelings.  We let those feelings get to us, and then come up with bullshit reasons for why what we did was in fact the right thing to do.



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Kantor said:

As for what you're saying about legalising regular suicide, I don't agree there. It shouldn't be legal unless you have a serious condition that impairs your ability to live a good life, or you are in pain, and you want to die.

Why? Because depression is a passing thing. You might feel that nobody loves you one day, and meet a fantastic girl/guy the next. You could have financial issues, and they could be resolved within a few months. By keeping suicide illegal, we put up some sort of barrier against a premature end to what could still be a fulfilling life.

Hold up, it's illegal to commit suicide???  How in any way whatsoever is it being illegal to commit suicide going to stop somebody from committing suicide.  You will be dead, so why do you care that there was a law preventing you from getting to that point?



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I think this video puts into perspective what I mean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUy6v3oGTOo

Yes, I'm aware of the circumstances behind why he's doing it in this movie, however, it still captures what I'm trying to convey better, perhaps, than mere words.



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Kantor said:

As for what you're saying about legalising regular suicide, I don't agree there. It shouldn't be legal unless you have a serious condition that impairs your ability to live a good life, or you are in pain, and you want to die.

Why? Because depression is a passing thing. You might feel that nobody loves you one day, and meet a fantastic girl/guy the next. You could have financial issues, and they could be resolved within a few months. By keeping suicide illegal, we put up some sort of barrier against a premature end to what could still be a fulfilling life.

Hold up, it's illegal to commit suicide???  How in any way whatsoever is it being illegal to commit suicide going to stop somebody from committing suicide.  You will be dead, so why do you care that there was a law preventing you from getting to that point?

That way law enforcement is empowered to stop you in the attempt



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Kantor said:

As for what you're saying about legalising regular suicide, I don't agree there. It shouldn't be legal unless you have a serious condition that impairs your ability to live a good life, or you are in pain, and you want to die.

Why? Because depression is a passing thing. You might feel that nobody loves you one day, and meet a fantastic girl/guy the next. You could have financial issues, and they could be resolved within a few months. By keeping suicide illegal, we put up some sort of barrier against a premature end to what could still be a fulfilling life.



You're thinking too small. Some people have been miserable for a decade and see no happy future for themselves.

And as another poster and I pointed out, it is those who won't let that person have that freedom of choice that are the selfish ones. These people are miserable. Some will remain miserable for most of there lives, why can't you just accept there decision in life? There is absolutely no certainty of a fulfilling life.



Human bodies are entities that do not want to die.  The entire entity is structured so that it wants to live and will do everything in its power to not die.  Whenever someone gets the idea to die, it is because they are stuck in a situation of perceived hopelessness that is a misfunction of what it means to be human.  Want to know why you intervene with people who want to kill themselves?  The reason why is that it isn't the way it is meant to be.  And in a society that doesn't value life that sufficiently that it will, it then will show less regard for life in a lot of other areas.

I understand there is places of hopelessness, and it seems like a mercy killing would be appropriate.  There is also the case of the separate situation where you keep someone in a vegetative state, or trying to save someone who would die shortly of natural causes.  There is also easing pain of someone who is dying.

Anyhow, if you feel that people should have a right to off themselves, I am curious why you think that this is something someone would pick as their option if they had hope.  Maybe the focus should be to give someone hope, rather than ending it all. 

As for the guy with no arms and legs.  He still has a mind, and can think and talk.  Humans can work to give him tools to enable him to function.  In an information age, the mind is a LOT more important than arms and legs.