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naznatips said:

It's clear that the DS's expansion market (the people who bought it for Brain Age, etc.) has largely moved on to smartphones (ND C is the 2nd best selling 3DS in japan). That audience also doesn't care about 3D... at all. 

 



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

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megaman79 said:
naznatips said:

It's clear that the DS's expansion market (the people who bought it for Brain Age, etc.) has largely moved on to smartphones (ND C is the 2nd best selling 3DS in japan). That audience also doesn't care about 3D... at all. 

 


I assume that ridiculous mess of a response was you trying to say that because people in Japan are buying Nintendogs and Cats that's not true, but the Japanese market has nothing to do with my statement. I fully expect the muchless smartphone gaming focused Japanese market to buy the 3DS as much as the DS, or nearly at least. It's the western market where you'll have trouble convincing people who buy $1 brain training games on an iPhone to buy a 3DS.

PS: I should get some kinda medal for translating your response.



naznatips said:


I assume that ridiculous mess of a response (1/) was you trying to say that because people in Japan are buying Nintendogs and Cats that's not true, but the Japanese market has nothing to do with my statement. I fully expect the muchless smartphone gaming focused Japanese market to buy the 3DS as much as the DS, or nearly at least. It's the western market where you'll have trouble convincing people who buy $1 brain training games on an iPhone to buy a 3DS (2/).

PS: I should get some kinda medal for translating your response.

1/ 3D Televisions selling for three grand are a problem for the average consumer, but people went to see Avatar. 3D is popular enough with the masses.

2/ I don't know whether you can say that without quantifying your statement with evidence. The fact is software attach rates for the DS have been fine for the last few years, so no. And I don't see how well a $1 game argument sits with anyone anymore, Kinect sold for $100 to 10 Million people last Christmas, despite all those Wii's on the market.

note - I agree with you that Nintendo are going back to a blue ocean market, previously red, because the app. gamer has taken development priority over DS, but I wouldn't say its dead and buried for Nintendo either.



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

FattyDingDong said:

how come  u never make a pro-sony thread

How could you turn this into an Anti-Sony article?  



dany612 said:

This is going to sell 150>  confirmed! Unlike the DS, the 3DS is starting huge.


Just saying its never wise to predict the life time sales of any consol :P 



Yeah i know my spelling sucks but im dysgraphic so live with it :3    

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naznatips said:
dany612 said:
Nintendogamer said:
dany612 said:

This is going to sell 150 confirmed! Unlike the DS, the 3DS is starting huge.


LOl DS isn't far off 150M as we speak!


Well I was trying to say that it will sell far more than 150M, and beat DS LTD. 

Some argue it won't reach DS level which I find absurd. 


I argue it won't reach DS level, and you'll hardly find a bigger fan of the DS anywhere than me. Of course it won't reach DS level. It's clear that the DS's expansion market (the people who bought it for Brain Age, etc.) has largely moved on to smartphones, and without that the DS never makes 100 million, much less 150 million. That audience also doesn't care about 3D... at all. 

What this leads to is the 3DS having a better core market audience, at least early on, but lacking a big chunk of those long-term sales. I think lifetime it makes around 100 million units sold, and is thus incredibly successful and profitable. It will also likely get incredible Japanese software support, maybe even better thant he original DS with how much the NGP seems to be ignoring the East. With a more core-focused audience it should also have a great attach ratio, unlike, say, the Wii. 

In a sense I actually want the mobile phone market to eat pie away from the 3DS because I want Nintendo to actually make a phone compatible version or system in the future. Though let's not compare oranges to lemons. The technology market is dynamic and yes anything can happen and any product can influence consumer buying decisions.

It all comes down to quality, innovation, and marketing. If Nintendo can consistently push quality games, the system will sell. It has great 3rd party support, the biggest for Nintendo in quite some time. 3D is one of the system's innovations and its highest selling point. If Nintendo can push this into marketing and as a great entertainment medium it will reach DS levels. Of course surpassing the DS is questionable. Of course smartphones are competition, but in the end it's all about being different. The 3DS brings an experience that one can not have on current phones. It will also have games with higher value.

Kinect is a great example of this. It has already sold nearly 10 million despite its 150 price tag. Consumers buy for quality and especially for fun when it comes to gaming. Avatar shows that the mass is interested in 3D. Many surveys have been conducted and it favors 3D. 



 

        

Chibi.V.29 said:
dany612 said:

This is going to sell 150>  confirmed! Unlike the DS, the 3DS is starting huge.


Just saying its never wise to predict the life time sales of any consol :P 


What if we come back in 6 years and it has :O haha lol



 

        

dany612 said:

Chibi.V.29 said:
dany612 said:

This is going to sell 150>  confirmed! Unlike the DS, the 3DS is starting huge.


Just saying its never wise to predict the life time sales of any consol :P 


What if we come back in 6 years and it has :O haha lol

Screencap this thread for historical purposes.

note - Hopefully this cat will calm the NGP trolls 6 years from now. Probably not.



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

megaman79 said:

Screencap this thread for historical purposes.

note - Hopefully this cat will calm the NGP trolls 6 years from now. Probably not.

And to tilt the balance to Nintendo, http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=126366&page=1



dany612 said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
dany612 said:

This is going to sell 150>  confirmed! Unlike the DS, the 3DS is starting huge.


Just saying its never wise to predict the life time sales of any consol :P 


What if we come back in 6 years and it has :O haha lol

Id say its almost imposible ^^ it will sell crazu amounts but as apose to the DS which eas completly origonal the 3ds is..wel...its just a DS with a few things added on. yeah there great stuff but most wont be willing to pay that kind of money just for a 3d effect everything will prob have in few years xD



Yeah i know my spelling sucks but im dysgraphic so live with it :3    

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