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Power to strip search passengers claimed by Feds

In a breathtaking statement delivered in an official court proceeding, the federal Department of Homeland Security (DHS) claims authority to strip search every airline passenger; and to begin such a practice without even soliciting comment from the public.

This outrageous statement recently was delivered to the American people by a DHS lawyer in arguments before the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, which is considering a challenge to the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) nude body scanner devices. The suit was brought by the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC).

Currently TSA, which is a component of DHS, claims authority to subject passengers to either an intrusive hand searches or to x-ray scans that reveal a nude image of the passengers’ bodies. Many, including this author and EPIC, consider such searches unconstitutional as violative of the the Fourth Amendment to our Constitution, which prohibits “unreasonable” searches, because they are being conducted without any suspicion at all that such passengers are attempting to bring weapons or explosives on board commercial aircraft.

The U.S. House is scheduled to open hearings today on TSA searches and authorities.

Most observers expect the D.C. Appeals Court to uphold TSA’s current practices. This would leave only the Congress to put a stop to these outrageous, privacy-invasive and unconstitutional searches by the federal government. If TSA and DHS are permitted to continue unchecked, then truly the Fourth Amerndment will have been gutted; and with it, the single most important and effective check on government power enjoyed by the American People for over two centuries.

by Bob Barr — The Barr Code



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This is actually nice and will save me some time. Instead of getting all dressed up for the airport I'll just go naked 



Sig thanks to Saber! :D 

you dont NEED to fly...so its not unconstitutional. 



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MrBubbles said:

you dont NEED to fly...so its not unconstitutional. 


This is a joke right? I hope so. by that logic you could be stripped searched any where by the government.

 

I think Ben said it best:

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.



thranx said:
MrBubbles said:

you dont NEED to fly...so its not unconstitutional. 


This is a joke right? I hope so. by that logic you could be stripped searched any where by the government.

 

I think Ben said it best:

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.


the police arent going to stop you driving your car and strip search you.   you dont need to get on this plane.  its just convenient.  so if you want this convenience...then they need to make sure that everyone on the plane is safe...its for the benefit of everyone on the plane and on the ground.



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MrBubbles said:

you dont NEED to fly...so its not unconstitutional. 

That's...not how the Constitution works.



noname2200 said:
MrBubbles said:

you dont NEED to fly...so its not unconstitutional. 

That's...not how the Constitution works.


if you are only protected from unreasonable searches...and its not unreasonable to be expected to be searched when boarding a plane, for everyones safety, then its not unconstitutional.



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"Its like sex, but with a winner!"

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MrBubbles said:
thranx said:
MrBubbles said:

you dont NEED to fly...so its not unconstitutional. 


This is a joke right? I hope so. by that logic you could be stripped searched any where by the government.

 

I think Ben said it best:

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.


the police arent going to stop you driving your car and strip search you.   you dont need to get on this plane.  its just convenient.  so if you want this convenience...then they need to make sure that everyone on the plane is safe...its for the benefit of everyone on the plane and on the ground.


You say they wont now, but who thought it would come to this for planes before 9/11? What if terrorist start using car bombs? What if they start to ram buses into buildings? How about if they attack a hospital? DMV? A school, maybe using kid suicide bombers. Should we be stripped search where ever we go? Before any building we enter? Its for the benefit of those in buildings and on roads.

Also how effective are these searches and is there a better way to do this? Less evasive? Or more efficient? Maybe we should learn from those who have had this problem and use their stratigies, ie how Israel does things.



That goddamn George Bush.



MrBubbles said:
noname2200 said:
MrBubbles said:

you dont NEED to fly...so its not unconstitutional. 

That's...not how the Constitution works.


if you are only protected from unreasonable searches...and its not unreasonable to be expected to be searched when boarding a plane, for everyones safety, then its not unconstitutional.

How many other nations subject their citizens to strip searches before entering a plane? I really dont know just wondering.