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Games4Fun said:

Is this like Canadians being afraid of the dark? (Heard it from How I Met Your Mother must be true right??)


I love how you met your mother, pretty funny show. But Canadian's afraid of the dark lol, sure the three year olds are. but of course your joking lol!



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r505Matt said:
HappySqurriel said:

Between swine flu, bird flu, SARS, and countless other paper-tigers built by the media is anyone surprised that the mainstream media continues to play on people's fears for ratings anymore?


Have you ever done any kind of research at all on pandemics? Or even just thought about it much? Pandemics are scary scary things. The problem isn't necessarily the current form of the pandemic, but rather the possibility of mutation over time that will make it even more resilient, invisible, and fatal.

The 1918 Spanish Flu is estimated to have killed 50-100 million people.The second wave was the truly deadly one.

"A large factor in the worldwide occurrence of this flu was increased travel. Modern transportation systems made it easier for soldiers, sailors, and civilian travelers to spread the disease."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

Pandemics can be quite serious, which is why governments and health organizations freak out and may go overboard for even 'lesser' diseases. Frankly, I'm all for that. It will keep more people healthy and alive. The only way to fight against a pandemic is with fast, serious action.

As for the radiation thing, yeah, people are freaking out. It is a little silly, but hey, if these people only need to buy something for some peace of mind, I say go for it.

There is a massive difference between taking reasonable precautions and buying into media driven fear. In the case of most of these paper-tiger pandemics those in charge of public policy are worried because these illnesses have the possibility to have 50% or 100% higher fatality rate compared to most influenza viruses; but (to the average person) this changes the probability of a healthy person dying from these illnesses from 0.01% to 0.02%.

One of these days we will have another influenza virus which is as deadly as the spanish flu was; unfortunately, after decades of "Crying Wolf" to gain ratings people are likely to think that it is just media hype.

 

By the way, the mainstream media's use of fear is hardly limited to meaningless illnesses ...

A kidnapping or murder will happen somewhere, and thousands of miles away people will be absolutely convinced that they will be the next target. You don't see children on playgrounds anymore because 1 in 1,000,000 children are kidnapped from a playground each year.

 

Essentially, people are living their lives in fear of events with insanely low probabilities of happening; while living lifestyles which will certainly shorten their lives by decades and leave them with slow and painful deaths.



Another fear base, it ruined Hallowe'en completely for the kids.

True that, there were a few crazy that put razor and drug inside the candies or something like that.

That spread country wide and kids can't even go trick or treat with some adults tagging along.

And by 10PM, everything seems like 3AM. Nobody walking the streets.



HappySqurriel said:
r505Matt said:
HappySqurriel said:

Between swine flu, bird flu, SARS, and countless other paper-tigers built by the media is anyone surprised that the mainstream media continues to play on people's fears for ratings anymore?


Have you ever done any kind of research at all on pandemics? Or even just thought about it much? Pandemics are scary scary things. The problem isn't necessarily the current form of the pandemic, but rather the possibility of mutation over time that will make it even more resilient, invisible, and fatal.

The 1918 Spanish Flu is estimated to have killed 50-100 million people.The second wave was the truly deadly one.

"A large factor in the worldwide occurrence of this flu was increased travel. Modern transportation systems made it easier for soldiers, sailors, and civilian travelers to spread the disease."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

Pandemics can be quite serious, which is why governments and health organizations freak out and may go overboard for even 'lesser' diseases. Frankly, I'm all for that. It will keep more people healthy and alive. The only way to fight against a pandemic is with fast, serious action.

As for the radiation thing, yeah, people are freaking out. It is a little silly, but hey, if these people only need to buy something for some peace of mind, I say go for it.

There is a massive difference between taking reasonable precautions and buying into media driven fear. In the case of most of these paper-tiger pandemics those in charge of public policy are worried because these illnesses have the possibility to have 50% or 100% higher fatality rate compared to most influenza viruses; but (to the average person) this changes the probability of a healthy person dying from these illnesses from 0.01% to 0.02%.

One of these days we will have another influenza virus which is as deadly as the spanish flu was; unfortunately, after decades of "Crying Wolf" to gain ratings people are likely to think that it is just media hype.

 

By the way, the mainstream media's use of fear is hardly limited to meaningless illnesses ...

A kidnapping or murder will happen somewhere, and thousands of miles away people will be absolutely convinced that they will be the next target. You don't see children on playgrounds anymore because 1 in 1,000,000 children are kidnapped from a playground each year.

 

Essentially, people are living their lives in fear of events with insanely low probabilities of happening; while living lifestyles which will certainly shorten their lives by decades and leave them with slow and painful deaths.


No, I'm with you for the other stupid stuff, but as I said, it's not necessarily about the first noticed strain of a pandemic but the possibilty of a far more dangerous mutation that comes after. The first wave of the Spanish flu was pretty normal, and those killed by it were mostly the very old and the very young, like most diseases of this nature. But the second wave was killing healthy young people. 

The Spanish flu is regarded to have a death rate of "over 2.5%". Predictions and simulations have shown that if another Spanish flu-like pandemic hits, over 100 million would likely die worldwide. I see nothing wrong with the media and scientists attempting to stay ahead of that and freak out over every new strain. Freaking out could possibly save millions of lives in such a case. Is it really worth being a cynic about this when possibily millions of lives could be at stake? Even if they're only doing it for ratings, this is a situation where 'bad' intentions can yield something good.

Again, I'm only talking in regards to pandemics, because I think they are a special case to be regarded separately from the general public's freaking out to everything else. That kidnapping thing, this nuclear thing, and other things of the sort are just silly. But freaking out over pandemics is a great survival trait for us to have.

I don't think there will be a "crying wolf" situation. Some people may not buy into the media hype when it comes, but these people are generally the same people who already don't buy into media hype as it is.



I think we're just bored or trying to stimulate the economy.  Maybe it's a mixture of both.  All I know is that I've got 200 lbs regular salt, 40 lbs of rock salt, 120 lbs of pickling salt, and about 20 boxes of epsom salt for good measure.  I'm picking up 60 lbs of sea salt and 130 lbs of kosher salt tomorrow.  I might get a few barrels of salt water just in case.



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voty2000 said:

I think we're just bored or trying to stimulate the economy.  Maybe it's a mixture of both.  All I know is that I've got 200 lbs regular salt, 40 lbs of rock salt, 120 lbs of pickling salt, and about 20 boxes of epsom salt for good measure.  I'm picking up 60 lbs of sea salt and 130 lbs of kosher salt tomorrow.  I might get a few barrels of salt water just in case.


Are you making salted perserved fish?



Galaki said:
voty2000 said:

I think we're just bored or trying to stimulate the economy.  Maybe it's a mixture of both.  All I know is that I've got 200 lbs regular salt, 40 lbs of rock salt, 120 lbs of pickling salt, and about 20 boxes of epsom salt for good measure.  I'm picking up 60 lbs of sea salt and 130 lbs of kosher salt tomorrow.  I might get a few barrels of salt water just in case.


Are you making salted perserved fish?


Probably just gonna preserve anything that dies from radiation.  If nothing dies from that I'll improvise. 



People in China are finally out of radiation panic state.

source

After panic buying, Chinese seek refunds on salt

Misguided shoppers cleared stores of the seasoning in the midst of a panic about radiation from Japan, some paying 10 times the normal prices. But few are allowed to return it for refunds.

Chinese shoppers crowd a shop March 17 in an effort to buy salt in Lanzhou, in northwest China's Gansu province. (STR / AFP/Getty Images)



badgenome said:
amp316 said:

Yeah.  We're easily freaked out.

This is why The Sixth Sense and The Ring were such big hits over here.

I thought that was because we have fucking horrible taste.

I thought that it was the taste thing too initially, but upon further evaluation I realized that I was incorrect.  Americans are easily freaked out and can't stomach things that actually are scary.  This is why there are so many PG13 "horror" movies now.  Shadows and creepy children are all that many Yanks can handle.  



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Porcupine_I said:

oh, by the way, last friday when i went to my favorite Kebap-Stand, the guy next to me kept talking about how he is not gonna buy a Toyota, because they are radioactive now... @___@

Ha! That's awesome.