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Vetteman94 said:
Wonktonodi said:


I think he was talking to me since I had voted baal and since his post was around when I was posting I think he just forgot who was the Lich King and who was Archimonde the Defiler.

Well thats not like theprof to make a mistake like that,  i will wait for a clarification from him

It was a mistake, but not for the reason of simple confusion over whose name belongs to whom, but rather that both of you have titles. The defiler and The lich-king. I don't have a title and I only know of you two having them.

So, for that reason I confused the two of you.

And yes, I'm implying that I don't trust your names.



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I think NotStan has done a pretty poor job defending himself and there is just far too much against him at this point. I'm sorry, but I can't help but side against you.

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theprof00 said:
Vetteman94 said:
Wonktonodi said:


I think he was talking to me since I had voted baal and since his post was around when I was posting I think he just forgot who was the Lich King and who was Archimonde the Defiler.

Well thats not like theprof to make a mistake like that,  i will wait for a clarification from him

It was a mistake, but not for the reason of simple confusion over whose name belongs to whom, but rather that both of you have titles. The defiler and The lich-king. I don't have a title and I only know of you two having them.

So, for that reason I confused the two of you.

And yes, I'm implying that I don't trust your names.

I think it is only there as a clarification as to what point in the story my character is taken from.  I probably wouldnt consider him an evil character until he actually becomes the Lich King. Cause otherwise he is just a Death Knight.   

And also I would suspect alot of characters from WoW have titles.   Just being a king or a prince would be title to go with the name.



Here's my next batch of notes that I promised…I can't for the life of me get myself to start my paper, so I figured I might as well be doing this.  Once again, it's going to be a long post, so bear with me here.  I'm not going to cover a majority of the original discussion on what exactly happened over the night, because (at least to my knowledge) a lot of it seems to have been proven wrong based on information given to us.

Day 2

Storyline Notes: FF was murdered with night vision goggles on (likely inferring he could see certain actions in the night, as he was the town watcher).  He was bound up and was hung via a coat hanger.  Not quite sure what to take of this.  For the 2nd murder, something that popped up to me (despite being assured it means nothing) pops up again.  I'm not quite certain how much information in regards to the storyline is given to mafia members, but there could be a connection here: radish was last seen eating a pear, and he previously said, "I’m pear" when NotStan stated pear was actually his friend.  As for this murder, it involved decapitation.

Noteworthy: I noticed that MG capped up some things from Radish, specifically: "he thought my boredom was because of a power role, he specifically mentions mafia-could be him trying to cast suspicions on me."  Once radish was dead, this comment just seems unnecessary, and perhaps an attempt by MG to get the eyes away from him.

2 Mafia Groups: hatmoza brings about this idea rather quickly based on radish being murdered in the flavored text.  Several people mention how this just doesn't seem likely based on the number of people in the game, but that doesn't make it impossible.

Busdriver: hatmoza also very quickly says another option is there is a busdriver involved.  After a lot of posts, hatmoza once again brings back the busdriver theory, saying Radish's killer successfully targeted radish, but also that FF was not meant to be killed, but was bussed, leading to his death. This theory is sort of shot down when we determine there was likely a Roleblocker.

Noteworthy: outlawauron said: "hatmoza surely doesn't take part in any night life".  Heph has the first HoS of the day against MG for only analyzing radish's death, as well as the first FoS of that day against Hat.  A lot of discussion about siblings arises, but it is more speculation than anything else.  Based on what I felt could have been radish and Truck working together against MG, I put out an FoS against Truck.

Role Reveals: darth was the first reveal, saying he was a doctor with no special powers.  Gnizmo put out a vote for darth based on this reveal and his idea of character/role matching.  Gnizmo says he is pro-town, which leads to the discussion about roles matching with characters (eventually figured to be false). Vette simply says he is the Lich King.  Based on this, NotStan puts an FoS on Vette.  Prof says he is kil'jaeden.  Something VERY suspicious that I have found.  On Day 1, Gnizmo said that his character and role hardly match up.  Yet Gnizmo is the one to start the theory in the first place that roles and characters match up, in what leads to an attempt to get people suspicious of darth's role claim.  Hatmoza puts out an FoS on Wonk for trying to push out what hat's role is.  Based on info auron provided, we can also assume that he can see certain things going on during the night.

FoS: Heph against Hat, Baalzamon against Truck, NotStan against Vette, Hat against Wonk

HoS: Heph against MG

Vote: Gnizmo against darth

Additional Role Reveals: hatmoza states he is a Guardian who targeted FF the first day, which should have meant the killer, hatmoza, and FF died according to his role description.  Baalzamon revealed himself as a town vanilla.

Additional Information: Wonk put an FoS on dsister, darth, notstan, MG, and ABC for lack of activity.  Heph puts out an HoS on Hat based on his roleclaim making him seem invincible.  MG put out an FoS on Wonk for saying MG did things that he didn't.  Heph put out an FoS on ABC for having others do his thinking.  Hat put an FoS on auron based on the slight chance he is lying.  He immediately unFoS auron and FoS MG for posting redundantly and keeping good track of the game.  Truck voted for darth after linkz said there is no plans to modkill lurkers.  NotStan puts an FoS out on darth for lack of posting.  Prof puts out a vote for darth for lurking and roleclaim.  Heph puts an FoS on Wonk for his replies to some questions.

New FoS: Wonk, Heph against ABC, Wonk against dsister, Wonk, NotStan against darth, Wonk against notstan, Wonk and hat against MG, MG, Heph against Wonk.  Hat against auron (undone for the MG FoS)

New HoS: Heph against Hat

New Votes: Truck and Prof against darth.

Final Notes: hat puts out a vote against NotStan for several reasons based on a post by NotStan.  Prof unvotes darth and votes for notstan.  Vette also votes NotStan.  Wonk votes for me based on lurking.  Heph upgrades his FoS towards Wonk to an HoS for pushing the lurker tag around.  NotStan votes No Lynch.  Dsister also votes NotStan.  Heph puts an FoS on abc for a suspicious post that seemingly urges people to vote for NotStan.  Wonk unvotes me and votes MG.  NotStan unvotes no lynch and votes for hatmoza, which is extremely weird considering him basically saying there was not enough information to vote.  Heph votes for NotStan because he targeted somebody claiming to be a bodyguard.  ABC tries getting NotStan to reveal his role, which he will not do.  ABC votes NotStan since he won't role claim.  Auron also votes NotStan.

New FoS: Heph towards ABC

New HoS: Heph upgrades Wonk FoS to HoS

New Votes: Hat, Prof (unvoted darth), Vette, dsister, Heph, ABC, auron vote NotStan.

Overall, after re-reading the day 2 information, I sort of got the feeling that a majority of the conversation was trying to figure out what the hell went on over the first night.  So the major things that happened in my mind were with the storyline once again incriminating NotStan and the whole pear fiasco, role reveals, and then the voting going on in the end.

I'm rather suspicious of how MG had so many posts the first day, and also how he seemed to want to get the attention away from him immediately when day two started.  He also seems to hardly be posting now (I didn't check if he's been online), which is a little awkward.  For this:

FoS: Metalgear

I'm also extremely curious as to what is going on with Darth.  He comes in, role claims, and has not posted a single thing since then.  For this:

FoS: darth

I'm also a little suspicious towards Wonk for putting a vote on me for lurking, when I just really didn't think there was much to post on at the moment.  I don't think this one quite justifies a finger though.

As for NotStan, the pear thing is really getting at me, despite him continuing to assure us there was absolutely nothing to it.  He has since been asked to role claim, and has 7 of 8 votes, and still is unwilling to role claim.  This just seems awkward, as despite what he says, him being killed in the night is much better in my mind for us if he is town than being lynched by us, as we are more likely to lynch a mafia member then.



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So for the final bit about NotStan, before I put out the final vote for him, does anybody else have anything they would like to say?



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Vetteman94 said:
theprof00 said:

It was a mistake, but not for the reason of simple confusion over whose name belongs to whom, but rather that both of you have titles. The defiler and The lich-king. I don't have a title and I only know of you two having them.

So, for that reason I confused the two of you.

And yes, I'm implying that I don't trust your names.

I think it is only there as a clarification as to what point in the story my character is taken from.  I probably wouldnt consider him an evil character until he actually becomes the Lich King. Cause otherwise he is just a Death Knight.   

And also I would suspect alot of characters from WoW have titles.   Just being a king or a prince would be title to go with the name.

yes, but i should have a title.

i'm kil'jaeden "the deciever", but i had to look that up to know.

As per your explanation, sure, I can understand that. So then what's the excuse for archimonde the defiler? There's no point in the story where that is indicative.



Hephaestos said:
holly crap... i just browsed 400 posts to see when FF posted last... case i was starting to think he was lurking too....
time to vote, the game slowed down enough that I forget who the dead people are ^^

I ... you know, I just got nostalgic and missed Falcon095, the eternal lurker ... I honored his memory by emulating him ...
also /zombie

P.S.  Baalzamon, I believe you mean to say "definitely" not "defiantly". 



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Fine. I'll role claim, I was a roleblocker for the night and had assumed that hatmoza was part of a mafia fractions and blocked him. I still find it unbelieveable that people are willing to ignore the fact that he was the second/third person to role claim and the first role that he role claimed was the literally, the invincible role out of them all. Elite bodyguard cannot be killed without reprecessuions, giving him immunity. Vote away.



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Baalzamon said:

So for the final bit about NotStan, before I put out the final vote for him, does anybody else have anything they would like to say?

He has now made a claim so hold off a bit and one other thing you were mistaked with Darth in your long post. He didn't say he was the doc he said he was vanilla town and that tho doc shouldn't protect him. 



NotStan said:

Fine. I'll role claim, I was a roleblocker for the night and had assumed that hatmoza was part of a mafia fractions and blocked him. I still find it unbelieveable that people are willing to ignore the fact that he was the second/third person to role claim and the first role that he role claimed was the literally, the invincible role out of them all. Elite bodyguard cannot be killed without reprecessuions, giving him immunity. Vote away.


Was the roleblocker as in past tense and are a roleblocker no more? but on a more serious note, people are not ignoring that he came forward early and aren't ignoring his role either. You seem to be ingoring the fact that people have said he will have to die. Just it would be a waste to take out someone who could have a role beneficial to the town before we have to.

Also his role isn't invincible. He dies along with those who try to kill him or his target. Hardly invinicble if he still dies. Plus his role doesn't work when he's blocked.

I don't really believe any claim unless there is a body to back it up. Even then if the body isn't that of the person who made the claim there is room for doubt.  My general idea is to give them at least one night but that was in games with simpler roles so no guarentees.

Why did you choose hat when you didn't have a FoS on him but on Darth?