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theprof00 said:

The only way possible, period, is this set of events:

you are the tracker. You tracked Hat. Hat role-watched FF, FF was bussed with Hat, Hat was role-blocked, Hat was night-killed.

So, Hat watched himself, you tracked FF, FF was roleblocked and killed.

That's the only possible solution that makes sense with everything.


Role watched? like a mafia cop?



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MetalGear_94 said:
theprof00 said:

The only way possible, period, is this set of events:

you are the tracker. You tracked Hat. Hat role-watched FF, FF was bussed with Hat, Hat was role-blocked, Hat was night-killed.

So, Hat watched himself, you tracked FF, FF was roleblocked and killed.

That's the only possible solution that makes sense with everything.


Role watched? like a mafia cop?

there's a role, I forget what it is atm, but it's basically a watcher, but instead of watching WHO goes to what person, he sees WHAT happened to that person.

So, say I target FF, I would know, "Night-killed" "bussed" "roleblocked"

 

Now, to add on to the series of events, according to the fluff (flavor) FF's arms were BOUND. That could be a roleblock. So, I'm starting to think that this series of events IS exactly what happened.

However, this would also require that Hat was targeted by 3 players. Night-killed, roleblocked, bussed, oh and tracked. 4 players would have to target Hat. That's quite a substantial number.

It would also have to ignore that FF was wearing his goggles.



theprof00 said:

Can someone, anyone, anywhere, read my posts about dsis?

I feel I am making some really good posts and I haven't had one comment on either of them.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3964947

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3965024


i'm sorry, yeah I saw your posts and that is part of why i came up with the post suggesting to the vig/sk/mafiaB to strike tonight. I have a strong feeling on him being scum, and that looks like a good deal for the town.



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theprof00 said:
MetalGear_94 said:


Role watched? like a mafia cop?

there's a role, I forget what it is atm, but it's basically a watcher, but instead of watching WHO goes to what person, he sees WHAT happened to that person.

So, say I target FF, I would know, "Night-killed" "bussed" "roleblocked"

 

Now, to add on to the series of events, according to the fluff (flavor) FF's arms were BOUND. That could be a roleblock. So, I'm starting to think that this series of events IS exactly what happened.

However, this would also require that Hat was targeted by 3 players. Night-killed, roleblocked, bussed, oh and tracked. 4 players would have to target Hat. That's quite a substantial number.

It would also have to ignore that FF was wearing his goggles.

Look at that, when I was a vigilante one game my kill was with rope and I tied the target up. Doesn't that look like a possible vigilante night kill? The rope would make sense, seeing as usually the vigilante is thought to be a cowboy/bounty hunter.



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A Bad Clown said:
theprof00 said:
MetalGear_94 said:


Role watched? like a mafia cop?

there's a role, I forget what it is atm, but it's basically a watcher, but instead of watching WHO goes to what person, he sees WHAT happened to that person.

So, say I target FF, I would know, "Night-killed" "bussed" "roleblocked"

 

Now, to add on to the series of events, according to the fluff (flavor) FF's arms were BOUND. That could be a roleblock. So, I'm starting to think that this series of events IS exactly what happened.

However, this would also require that Hat was targeted by 3 players. Night-killed, roleblocked, bussed, oh and tracked. 4 players would have to target Hat. That's quite a substantial number.

It would also have to ignore that FF was wearing his goggles.

Look at that, when I was a vigilante one game my kill was with rope and I tied the target up. Doesn't that look like a possible vigilante night kill? The rope would make sense, seeing as usually the vigilante is thought to be a cowboy/bounty hunter.

that is also possible.

I just figured out as well though that auron could be the blocker, not the tracker, which means only 3 people would have had to target hat.

Or, it COULD be a vig, AND a blocker, or a mafia and a blocker.

unfortunately, none of this clears either of them.

However, it does seem odd that a blocker and a killer would attack the same person if they were on the same team. A busser could be mafia, so it's possible the busser AND the killer are both mafia...

tl;dr neither outlaw nor hat are cleared.



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Let me apologize for the confusion I may have cause.

The only reason I eliminated the possibility of me being role block was because I didn't receive a PM informing me of such. Therefore I was confident that my action went through. 

There's no hiding it now, I'm well aware most of you already figured out I had a protective role. I am Gross Hellscream, a Guardian. If I'm killed I take the killer with me. If the person I Guard is killed, I'm also killed but I still kill them.

Against my belief that F-F wouldn't be targeted on the first day ,I guarded F-F based on nothing but a gut feeling (my intuition even scares me at times)

That is why I was so sure F-F was bussed, I Guarded him, and seeing that I wasn't informed of being roleblocked, The bus driver role seem a sure thing.



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And now I'm at the mercy of the whore roleblocker.



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theprof00 said:

@gnizmo, what do you think about this then:

 

Defensive Stan (Notstan)

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3959011

"Yes I guess it has nothing to do with the fact that we both watch Annoying Orange on youtube."

Wonk made a joke accusation, notstan got defensive, the wonk continued with the joke and notstan replied , "Yesss me and ABC killed dsister on youtube .. And half his family too, and his cousin pear x)"


holy crap forgot about this... I voted Radish day one cause of his "i'm pear" post that I thought was a strange attempt at buddying to be part of the joking group.

now in relation to this:

"Yesss me and ABC killed dsister on youtube .. And half his family too, and his cousin pear x)"

it sounds oddly familiar to SAK's "team spirit" post in the christmass round, which was basically a go team to stefl... his scum buddy.



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The only think that really worries me is that hat did actually do something, but I was roleblocked instead (which is unlikely as I was given a result rather than just saying I was blocked).

This has turned quite intriguing. I'm surprised that me and hat are the only ones to provide real detail about the night (outside of those just role claimin')



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Wonktonodi said:
Hephaestos said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Now on to the aftermath of last night. It's been a while since we had two deaths in a night.

Two options have been brought forward by other players:

- Two Mafia factions: I'm not inclined to believe this one because of the size of the game and the fact that theRepublic has helped balanced this game (I'm pretty sure he would have objected to this) and also because I believe radish would have been labelled Mafia A or B in the OP.
- Linkzmax puts all deaths in the same color: I'd put my money on this option. Whether because Linkz has never been in a multi-death game or because he simply decided not to gives us clues as to who killed who.

Going by this, hatmoza's bus driver theory is possible only if a SK/vigilante killed Final-Fan and whoever the Mafia targetted got switched with radish. The more likely event here is that everyone succeeded in killing who they wanted dead. This means radish's death was at the hands of either a vigilante or a serial killer.

In the case of a vigilante, it's kind of an irresponsible move to kill on the first night. It would have to be a new player or Wonk wanting to prove his theory from last game :P

That leaves the serial killer as the most probable option for radish's murder.


good point with A-B...though the same color death for less info could coincide with no AB for less info.

 

AND now that the cat is out of the bag.... Wonk what do you have to say for your defence?


That I have no role but you and trucks did do a nice job of making me a target for a nightkill. 

haha, well that was my first reaction but didn't comment on it in case you were vig... but he said it so :p



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