Radishead didn't really say alot some things I noted are

he thought the crusade of abc on dsister was suspicious but said he thought it wouldn't be right to start a bandwagon

he thought dsister 3 questions weren't suspicious, he also didn't think dsister had acted scummy and thinks users are trying to set him up

he thought my boredom was because of a power role, he specifically mentions mafia- could be him trying to cast some suspicions on me

his argument with heph about siblings

So I think it's safe to assume that there are 2 mafia groups seeing how radish (scum) was murdered in the flavored text.

Either that or a busdriver (do not expose yourself) switched players and caused the mafia to kill their own or a member from the other mafia faction.

I would think if there was a SK that the flavored text would have used a different word other than "murdered." ... mayb not though.

unless im missing somthing, there are a few other possibilities like a paranoid gunowner, or a bodygaurd

and i think the game is too small for two mafia factions

I'm going mainly by the flavored text- that both FF and radish were murdered. Unless you're talking about the buss driver idea? Yes, there are other possibilities but I think the busser role makes the most sense. As a matter of fact it makes the only sense in my head.

oh ur right

the are both the same colour

I didn't finish reading the entire page and I did not see that night happened yet. Whenever I did, I just edited out my post which was my vote for a no lynch day 1.

And I must say that hatmoza surely doesn't take part in any night life.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

2 deaths? I didn't even know that there can be two deaths, the only mafia I've played ever only had the mafia, doctor, cop and the townspeople. Adds a very interesting twist! What is the bus driver concept? I've never heard of it.. heading to the Wiki to read up on the roles a bit more.

Isnt this game a little too small to have 2 families though? 20%/25% of 17 wouldn't make it logical to have so many mafia at once

.........

anyways... I guess we can safely assume that there is a sibling (Radish's slip) and looking at Radish's role (Goon), we can also assume that the mafia is not just vanilla.

On the deaths... It is surprising that there is 2 murders of the same color. Also I disagree that the game is too small for 2 factions, if anything a faction of 4 players is a harder balance than 2 factions of 3... as they need to kill each other and cross hits as this help the town with much information.

A) Links banlances out the info by using the same color for 2 faction

B) Links counts all deaths the same....he never played a multideath game if I recall, but he did read them -> SK, Vig

C) Hat's bussdriver idea

D) Mafia saw radish as a liability....

E) Crazy mafia assasin with bouncing kill? (though the crazy aspect is usuall still on the person targeted no?)

F) paranoid gun owner.... not possible as Radish was a goon and therefor would only have gone outside of his bed if he was FF's killer.

i'd say that this is their order of likeliness.

On his interactions... Radish has in the past shown a great potential for soft buddying and soft positioning.... I don't think there is too much to read on his position surrounding Dsister. Day one is definitely not the most informative day for a Radish scum flip.

Though I certainly see how Radish could have been the choice of a vigilante... I wouldn't find it logical for an SK or Mafia B team.... unless they just randomized (new players? we have 2 new and 1 returing that does not know him)

(no offence radish, if you're still reading, but to me you're in the category of townies that can be framed or on which manipulations can be attempted and thus not night one targets for mafia)

I find FF's death an lot more troublesome to make sense of.... I didn't notice anything particular besides his interaction with me, and that was based on a rather simple principle so not really telling, moreover, if the aim was to frame me, Dsister would have been a better target....

(this is all without a reread of day one (350 posts), so please say if I missed points ^^)

-> Confirmation of powered mafia (Goon)

-> possibly 2 mafia factions

-> possible SK / Vig

-> possible siblings (radish slip)