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TruckOSaurus on 24 March 2011
Hephaestos said:

so far we lost 4 town and 3 mafia...

if we look at it we hardly could have done better... yet we're at lylo minus 1 if the other mafia is 3.... that plays against it in the balance...

the dagger signature does point to sk more than vig... but a lone sk is a bit low in scum...

How so? If we're dealing with a SK, the Mafia team will be in higher numbers than 3 right?



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Vetteman94 on 24 March 2011
A Bad Clown said:

I was probably looking at the heph FoS then

What do you think of Hephs vote on you?   The theory seems plausible.



theprof00 on 25 March 2011

one thing I wanted to mention.

It wasn't just that notstan said he would block MG.

The context was that I was proving to town that a pro-town roleblocker would only end up blocking other pro-town roles and would therefore be most logical to be a mafia blocker.

So, in the case that he was trying to prove, he would've not wanted to block a pro-town role as it would prove that he was a liability.

Take from it what you will, but I believe that he wouldve chosen someone that he either knew didn't have a role (unlikely, but possible if there is a mafia cop), another mafioso, or someone that he actually suspected of being anti-town.

In my mind, it makes sense that we should go after that person. I know it's a different approach, but I'm quite confident. MG has been on my list for days (irl days) since baal posted his day 1, as well as many other things I've noticed about him.



Wonktonodi on 25 March 2011
theprof00 said:
Wonktonodi said:

Vote: theprof00

1) For his reaction to dsis being scum. 2) His insintence that hat was the target. With how fast he came back with the hat quote after I told him how the flavor pointed one way looked planed to me.

3) For him saying that a SK or Vig killed gniz. Yet then saying a scum reading lore and dropping the Vig. Yet jumping on me for asking him a question that used scum.

4) Also for him taking the word of a hammerd scum as a way to make points.

1. What's wrong with my reaction?

2. The flavor is not on your side of the argument.

You said that based on the flavor showing hat talking a long time, it was him on his way to guard you! That is completely illogical, unfounded, and downright opportunistic. You WANT Hat to have guarded you.

The flavor is in my corner 10000%. Hat makes crazy comments, calls out the mafia to kill him, the mafia says, "you may be stronger, but I'll take you down with me". 

I dare anyone to say that I'm wrong. That was a direct challenge that was met. Nobody targeted you.

I found his quote quickly because I have all the pages open (a trick I learned from linkz last game) and all i had to do was Ctrl-F Find "gross" because Hat claimed Gross Hellscream, which was a glaring typo.

3. Again, this comment reeks of you knowing that there are two families. Why can't an SK or Vig kill? I never rhetorically questioned why the vig would kill gnizmo because there was nothing suspicious about him. A vig killing both Gnizmo last night, and radish the night before is VERY BAD PLAY for a vigilante. That is the work of someone whose own interests are their motivation. And sorry, I didn't realize I used the word scum. 

4. Ok, fine. I'll concede that point. 

 

So very interesting how riled up you're getting.


I forgot to adress the other points my apologies.

1 although yours wasn't as bad as ABC's comment it still rubbed me the wrong way.

"DSIS PROVES ME RIGHT ONCE AGAIN!

:P "

It feels like it could be fake, over the top and a bit too much hurray for me.

3. I'm not trying to insisted there are two families, I'm saying we can't disgard it. I agree with disgarding a vig since even if he got lucky once he should stop.

My point in three though had also been about you saying that me useing the term scum was one of the things wrong with my post.

Not really riled up. Two games ago Hat riled me up. Last game Linkz riled me up. You not so much. Hmm maybe you are town then since so far it's been scum who's riled me.



Wonktonodi on 25 March 2011

Something about outlaw bothers me.

I was thinking of how if he was on the scum team he would have known Hat was blocked night one and for night two he could have said hat protected anyone, and as we have pointed out knowing who hat protects isn't the most helpful. Although had hat lived we outlaw would still have gotten that info so not totally useless just I think he could have chosen better.

Not at all calling for his lynch but if we reach lylo and he still alive. He'd get my vote.



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Hephaestos on 25 March 2011
TruckOSaurus said:
Hephaestos said:

so far we lost 4 town and 3 mafia...

if we look at it we hardly could have done better... yet we're at lylo minus 1 if the other mafia is 3.... that plays against it in the balance...

the dagger signature does point to sk more than vig... but a lone sk is a bit low in scum...

How so? If we're dealing with a SK, the Mafia team will be in higher numbers than 3 right?


yes that is what the reflexion tends to.

1) second mafia team doesn't seem as plausible if constituted of 3 members

2) if an SK, then the mafia is not just 3.

(we could look at who has not nameclaimed yet ^^)



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Hephaestos on 25 March 2011
Wonktonodi said:

Something about outlaw bothers me.

I was thinking of how if he was on the scum team he would have known Hat was blocked night one and for night two he could have said hat protected anyone, and as we have pointed out knowing who hat protects isn't the most helpful. Although had hat lived we outlaw would still have gotten that info so not totally useless just I think he could have chosen better.

Not at all calling for his lynch but if we reach lylo and he still alive. He'd get my vote.


why do you think I asked him "why did you follow Hat"?



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outlawauron on 25 March 2011
Hephaestos said:
Wonktonodi said:

Something about outlaw bothers me.

I was thinking of how if he was on the scum team he would have known Hat was blocked night one and for night two he could have said hat protected anyone, and as we have pointed out knowing who hat protects isn't the most helpful. Although had hat lived we outlaw would still have gotten that info so not totally useless just I think he could have chosen better.

Not at all calling for his lynch but if we reach lylo and he still alive. He'd get my vote.


why do you think I asked him "why did you follow Hat"?

For the first or second time?

First time was my choice as I just picked someone. The second time was, ironically, random.org'd (by linkzmax, not myself).



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Hephaestos on 25 March 2011
outlawauron said:
Hephaestos said:
Wonktonodi said:

Something about outlaw bothers me.

I was thinking of how if he was on the scum team he would have known Hat was blocked night one and for night two he could have said hat protected anyone, and as we have pointed out knowing who hat protects isn't the most helpful. Although had hat lived we outlaw would still have gotten that info so not totally useless just I think he could have chosen better.

Not at all calling for his lynch but if we reach lylo and he still alive. He'd get my vote.


why do you think I asked him "why did you follow Hat"?

For the first or second time?

First time was my choice as I just picked someone. The second time was, ironically, random.org'd (by linkzmax, not myself).

thank you for the random.org confirmation.

that means Hat did indeed find the proper target and that was wonk.



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Hephaestos on 25 March 2011

it also confirms that Dsis was not randomed and thus may still have acolytes.



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